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Nov 05, 2008 01:23

Yey, Obama won, and all that. Change! or something ( Read more... )

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zaydia November 5 2008, 14:39:30 UTC
I'm sorry, I can't quite write a long coherent response to this but my main message is this: the civil rights movement has shown that separate is not equal. The only way civil unions vs. marriage would be fair is if EVERYONE was required to have a civil union and marriage was a religious ceremony only.

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jzig November 5 2008, 21:42:33 UTC
Yeah, that argument makes sense. I'm totally on board with changing the legal term for everyone while explicitly making marriage religious, which I think is a good way to do it.

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casey November 6 2008, 00:36:29 UTC
That's never going to happen-- you're never going to succeed in doing what people will perceive as "taking away" rights from them. The only thing you can do is extend MORE rights to MORE people, and unfortunately that isn't in the cards yet, even if we elect a Democrat.

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ex_md744 November 5 2008, 21:59:53 UTC
Nothing stopping a gay man from marrying a woman. That would be equal application of marriage.

In California, any civil union, or even if you just LIVE together for 6 months grants your partner all rights and benefits due to any other life partner. This applies to gays as well.

The only problem I heard about was healthcare for Federal employees.

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Fuck you too piman November 6 2008, 01:33:20 UTC
California has domestic partnerships, which do not confer any federal marriage benefits, and requires both people to have a common residence, as well as missing some (relatively minor) state benefits.

California does not have civil unions.

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Re: Fuck you too ex_md744 November 6 2008, 01:57:12 UTC
gahahahahahaha

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