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jorm October 5 2009, 22:57:02 UTC
I've noticed that facebook seems to be moving into a "follow but not friend" system. If you "friend" someone, and they don't deny *or* accept, you'll still be able to watch their public posts.

I expect that this is intentional, and will eventually birth systems where by you can "follow" people just like you follow "pages" or "fan" things. There are two things Twitter has over facebook: 1) the ability to "follow" people without them following you back, and 2) the ability to search globally for trending topics. Bets on how long it will be before those features are implemented?

That being said, I set my FB "notes" to public, all access, and there are random people who read them. It's not ideal by any stretch, and I fucking *loathe* their editor and display system (LJ seems to be significantly more robust in that regard).

I just want FB notes to allow internal HTML correctly. Just do that, guys? Please? Shouldn't be too hard. This is a solved problem.

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dr_memory October 5 2009, 22:58:18 UTC
If you've got a copy of OSX Server floating around, "iChat server" is in fact a full-on jabber/xmpp server. Otherwise, pick your poison. FWIW I found eJabberd to be reasonably well-featured and easy to set up back when I last looked at it (about three years ago), and these days they seem to have a MacOS installer.

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yan_1976 October 5 2009, 22:59:25 UTC

i use ejabberd to back end chat for my project. it seems solid. check it out, you'll like it...

$ ejabberdctl connected_users| wc -l
281

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eqe October 6 2009, 17:25:05 UTC
I use ejabberd as well, and it's fucking annoying because it's Erlang and I can't hack the source and the config files are written in moon-man language and there are incomprehensible daemons running providing critical portions of the language runtime, but it works and is less annoying than any of the alternatives. The logs are mostly useful for debugging connection problems (about 5 times in the last 12 months gmail.com has decided to intermittently fail to deliver messages, either with or without returning 5xx errors) and it's neither fucking java nor C++. It never needs to be restarted, it doesn't crash or leak memory, and it's reasonably easy to configure (so long as you just follow the recipes in the config file comments).

So I guess that's an endorsement of some kind.

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Openfire robm42 October 5 2009, 23:13:33 UTC
At work, we use Openfire (the free version). This is running on a CentOS 5.3 host. It peers just fine with LJ and GTalk.

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Re: Openfire bluknight October 5 2009, 23:38:48 UTC
I'll second Openfire -- we're moving to that at work from jabberd2 and I've been running Openfire at home for some projects for a while -- considering moving my 'public' stuff to it.

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Re: Openfire malokai October 6 2009, 02:14:54 UTC
I third this. OpenFire was stupidly easy to run, and stable.

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lilmissnever October 5 2009, 23:18:54 UTC
(I imagine the lack of reliability that seems to be Livejournal's new way of doing things -- plus the fact that the site feels like a ghost town now -- will eventually cause me to move this blog to somewhere else. I'm not sure where, though. All the options are bad. Run it on your own site: get no comments but lots of spam. Just use Facebook: effectively limited to friends-only posts. Bleh.)

I have a similar problem. I don't know where the cool kids do their blogging these days. I suspect the answer is that they are too busy filling out Facebook quizzes to blog about anything.

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solarbird October 5 2009, 23:22:36 UTC
Yeah, I've seen a lot of people go from posting semi-regularly to LJ to shorter Facebook bullshittery, or worse, tweeting. (I have several FL zombies which are just Twitterdumps, and y'know what? Fuck that.)

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alierak October 5 2009, 23:38:42 UTC
I use Dreamwidth. Disclaimer: Dreamwidth employee.

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