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ipsius February 11 2013, 19:21:16 UTC
Got here from Tumblr. I love all your meta posts, because you always do such an amazing job teasing out all these relevant details and connections. (Like in your Kagura post. That was my favorite. ♥) The thing about Gintama that makes it so endearing is that it is absolutely about community and camaraderie. Gintoki isn't a hero because he has the most power-ups and the flashiest energy blasts, but because he inspires people to stand up and change things.

The regular doses of humor and ridiculousness also make for a great contrast with the serious arcs. And this is sort of off on a tangent, but how in the world does Sorachi get the tone and tone switches so perfect? He's a wizard.

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juneaddams February 12 2013, 04:09:28 UTC
aw, thank you! I've always wanted to say I love your tumblog with all the Kagura love in it. bbgirl is a big damn hero / my ultimate bias.

The thing about Gintama that makes it so endearing is that it is absolutely about community and camaraderie. Gintoki isn't a hero because he has the most power-ups and the flashiest energy blasts, but because he inspires people to stand up and change things.

Yes, exactly! Whereas classic shonen sheries believe in the exceptional individuals among us, "the chosen one" so to speak, Gintama believes in the community and the idea that no matter who we are, we can contribute something to a cause we believe in. Even if we are a madao! And yet it manages to not be naive about things either, cause there's always going to be bad stuff with the good stuff, and sometimes the best endings we got is more bitter than sweet, but.../going off-tangent again.

And this is sort of off on a tangent, but how in the world does Sorachi get the tone and tone switches so perfect? He's a wizard.He and Sunrise are like a ( ... )

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ipsius February 12 2013, 04:45:02 UTC
*blushhhh* Haha, thanks! Kagura is my absolute favorite. I don't think there's any other character like her, not even talking about just animanga, but in general ( ... )

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juneaddams February 12 2013, 13:26:27 UTC
That chapter got me misty-eyed. I mean, I feel like it says something about Sorachi-sensei that his favorite character (according to Q & A) is Madao because in other series, a character like him would never be the story's hero.

The way I think about it is, if you were to anthropomorphize the various popular Shonen Jump series, a lot of them would be like teenage kids - lots of energy, really brash. But Gintama would be someone in their 20s, with a great sense of humor, but extremely principled and aware of exactly who they are. If that makes sense, haha.yes basically this, this made so much sense ( ... )

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ipsius February 12 2013, 14:29:34 UTC
ps: making a wild guess since two of my Gintabros are survivors of this show and your experience sounds so much like theirs. Is the 'particular series'...Bleach?

*flails* How did you knowwwww? It definitely was Bleach. I don't know if you read it, but I stopped after the Hueco Mundo arc, where the conclusion basically had Orihime commit the most disappointing kind of character fail imaginable. I'm still bitter at Kubo Tite to this day. >____>

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juneaddams February 12 2013, 14:46:33 UTC
A friend of mine, @gruskek, told me Bleach had strong, easy-to-root characters in the beginning, but it's been on a steady downward spiral since the first arc is over, that it's becoming painful to see the characters now (though ironically, the art is better than ever? but what good is pretty art if the story suffers). From other people I also heard that old fans are just tuning in from time to time in hope of seeing it to the end, but end up feeling very disenchanted. There are like at least 4 people I know in the gintafandom in various state of love/hate relationship with Kubo Tite rn.

I've never seen it (horror stories from fans kind of stopped me from trying), only gifs and occasionally bits of ship war peeking through (sob).

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ipsius February 12 2013, 20:23:44 UTC
Bleach's ship wars are insane and a little beyond comprehension. People write like 4000+ word essays with captioned pictures and consult the original Japanese dialogue to defend their points. It was like literary academia... except snarkier and with shipping. It made my head hurt.

Bleach definitely peaked early on. I didn't like the first arc that much, but the second arc was very strong. The problem was that the third arc was seriously an exact repeat of the second: a girl who is close to the main character gets taken away/kidnapped, everyone has to mobilize to save her. Which is not necessarily problematic on its own, but to repeat it twice, right after the other, is sort of saying something about how he perceives female characters, I feel like. Or at least the automatic way he approaches writing stories about his main female characters. Also at the end of the third arc, the girl who'd been kidnapped, Orihime, not only failed to develop, but actively failed on a moral and emotional strength level. Why he decided to tear his own ( ... )

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