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Mar 31, 2004 22:58

The conference was great. Rode up with Akaka[01] (Kama and Dancerfish were in Kama's car) and had a good long talk about our early education experiences (lots of homeschooling, lots of science fair), our wonderful times as Gillian's students, a brief and awkward divergence into personal matters, from which we recovered to go back to those earlier ( Read more... )

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Hmmm... count_fenring April 1 2004, 01:35:44 UTC
Due to my unflagging interest in web social conventions, I will spring upon your footnote. Note, however, that I have read the rest, and found it interesting and amusing. And the video link is, at this time, not working for me. Which, given that other web-things are currently malfunctioning, could very well be something broken on campusweb, as opposed to on your server. Anyway:

I think part of the pseudonym thing might be a generational (or, anyway, time-passage-related) phenomenon. I've noticed that, since the early days of my internet use (which was earlier than some, but later than many: See middle late to late late 80s for details), pseudonyms have gradually lowered in coinage just in general usage: a username today is much less likely to be used in conversation. Now, personally, this may be because I've started using the internet much more often to communicate with people whom I know already, as opposed to IRC-ish group environments. Truth be told, large chats always frustrated me. However, I think another level of it might be that, for people of our age, the time when we want the internet to be characterized by fluid identity and anonymity is slowly ending. It's become more importent to us to be able to be contacted, to contact, and to exert the kind of influence that requires a personal connection. The chief value of being able to ditch any identity at will and start over has been supplanted by the advantages of a static identity. We don't want to bother earning our "net cred" all over again.

On the other hand, it could just be social mores of the system. And, although I've seen less of it than in diaryland, I have seen use of LJ usernames and other miscellaneous things used as pseudonyms, and I'm far from having read a great many LJs or Diarylands.

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Re: Hmmm... julieclipse April 1 2004, 07:49:34 UTC
I used the term "pseudonym" because I thought it had the fewest net-specific connotations (I would say that "handle" has the most). The topic you're discussing is very interesting, but what I had in mind was referring to people without known on-line handles, for example, professors. The majority of my Diaryland peergroup give everyone pseudonyms, including ~adults like professors, bosses, and family members. The point seems to be anonymity rather than identity - presumably a gesture towards protecting one's comments from limitless rumor spreading and oneself from defamation lawsuits.

I've noticed much less of this amongst my LiveJournal peergroup.

My samples are confounded, because my DLand contacts are mostly New College and my LJ contacts are mostly NBTSCampers, so the differences may be between the cultures of those two groups rather than the cultures of the two OLJing media.

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Re: Hmmm... julieclipse April 1 2004, 08:18:02 UTC
As for your theory, my spin on it would be that the Internet used to be smaller (remember the web in 1995, and how little time it took to get back to a familiar page from a somewhat random one? How you could actually view essentially every page on a given topic? (How horribly ugly everything was?)). If you were on-line, you could consider yourself part of a special group. Something of a computer geek, someone exploring new territory, doing something exciting and new. Learning exotic shell commands and protocol structure. You post something on Usenet, and most of the other people with access stand a chance of seeing it. The people who are interested in things you're interested in will recognize your handle and your signature, and those people will probably be random far away people you've never met before. They're part of your new social group - the group of "people on the Internet".

So the consequences of the situation described for handles are twofold. First, you feel kinda special about being on-line, and you pick a handle to feel cool, to establish your identity. Second, you're more likely to actually interact with people you don't know at all IRL.

I'm pretty much agreeing with you, just with a bunch of analysis. I also use the Internet to communicate with people I already know these days. It's been a long time since I've made a new friend solely on-line. I'm aware that there are places I can go where I can be anonymous, but in general, I've completely sacrificed that for the static identity thing. It has in fact never been possible to be less anonymous. I responded to the namespace problem by picking a (AFAIK) unique username. Thus I'm aware that anyone who sees me logged on anywhere as Julieclipse (potentially) instantly knows everything about me.

I'm still not sure how I feel about that.

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Re: Hmmm... julieclipse April 1 2004, 08:20:30 UTC
Oh, one more thing. Try the video link now. My bad. Be warned, it's somewhat large.

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