If you are not currently nor ever have been heavily into the Legend of the Five Rings CCG, the below pathetic whine will make no sense to you. Choke it down at your own peril
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Maybe L5R is like the perfect circle Lew mentions on "Rules of Enragement" when he talks about Ireland. "They drink and then they go to church, and feel guilty, so they have to drink AGAIN. I gotta tell ya, it makes a Jew weep." I mean, that does sound like our cycle of party/tournament/party/go home, right?
I too am trying to get back into the game. It's been hard. I dunno if this will help you any, but try teaching the game to some new people and play with them if that option's available to you. I'm teaching it to a few friends who really are just in that "Hey, the story's cool" or "samurai are neat" phase and I get to build fun decks and not worry too much about how strategically effective they are. I'll worry about that if I go to a Kotei, y'know?
Just a few thoughts because I'd like to see you go to some tournaments I go to, if for no other reason than our mutual weeping for sobriety.
I feel your pain and annoyance, Seth, only too well. It's the same reasons I left the game a few years ago. You know me, I was the ultimate casual player. Tournies don't do much for me, but I'll play in them if it's the only way I can play. However, the deck has to be something that fits me as a person, which is why I loved decks like my old Corruption Token Hell deck, or anything that involved a Twelve Black Scrolls victory. Right before Spirit Wars, though, I realized that, at least in the KC area, the game had become completely about the tourney scene, and completely about making the most efficient deck possible. Not about having the most fun just kicking back and playing the game, but about winning in the quickest, easiest manner that you could. I don't want to berate that style -- some people really dig that -- but it's not for me. It was like someone had bled all that made the game enjoyable for me out of the local environment, and that's when I knew it was time to pick up and go home. I gave Gold another try, but it was really
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I knew the hubberling would have a .02 to add to this.
But I tend to agree. I don't play-- and I really haven't played CCGs in a long time, but when I saw the trend happening in the way-way back days of Magic and then repeat itself in game after game that ever caught on, I was just disheartened. Why play a game when it isn't fun? There's only so far a passion will go before it becomes out and out resentment. I can't say that's happened for me in the case with CCGs as I tend to only get bored and leave, but it has happened in other games.
So, I think I have to agree with the Bo, perhaps give a serious look into alternatives rather than keeping company with weenies.
Well I don't see myself as a great player BUT OMG UR THE BIGGEST LOZAR LOL M I RITE!!1!!!!!!1!11eleven
Anyway, I'm actually having this discussion right now with someone else - about how most of the people in #l5r these days are raging assholes. And it's funny when one of my friends who's a raging asshole is sick of the game in part because he can't stand many of the OTHER raging assholes.
I don't know that "casual play" is the answer. I love to win in odd ways, but I like to win - and I've found that most casual players seem to play that way so at least when the lose, they can claim somebody else wasn't playing casually enough, or something (like maybe I should leave guys to clog my provinces, I dunno).
But yeah, you're far from alone in thinking the player base seems to be going to hell. It makes me more clannish at major events, rather than trying to meet everyone, and it's a raging bitch to try judging when people are being absolute dicks.
Eh I'm not saying "casual play is the answer", because this is still a competetive game and you play those to win. My problem is that I used to be able to play games and lose and enjoy them. Hell I used to be able to play games and win and still enjoy them. Now it's not really all that much fun, win or lose. I mean if someone plays just to have fun and they don't care if they win or lose, that's their world, but I'm not in it. I've just gotten to the point where the fun is actually gone from the game itself, and so when I turned to think "well at least so-an-so still plays and they're a damn hoot to play with" I couldn't think of many people at all.
Yeah, that's the biggest problem to getting people together outside of tournements. Money/travel/time off issues aside. What to do? Going to see movies and playing video games only lasts so long. And when you're paying big bucks to do so....not many people do. I know I do, more often than I should, but I do crazy shit all the time. *shrug*
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I too am trying to get back into the game. It's been hard. I dunno if this will help you any, but try teaching the game to some new people and play with them if that option's available to you. I'm teaching it to a few friends who really are just in that "Hey, the story's cool" or "samurai are neat" phase and I get to build fun decks and not worry too much about how strategically effective they are. I'll worry about that if I go to a Kotei, y'know?
Just a few thoughts because I'd like to see you go to some tournaments I go to, if for no other reason than our mutual weeping for sobriety.
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But I tend to agree. I don't play-- and I really haven't played CCGs in a long time, but when I saw the trend happening in the way-way back days of Magic and then repeat itself in game after game that ever caught on, I was just disheartened. Why play a game when it isn't fun? There's only so far a passion will go before it becomes out and out resentment. I can't say that's happened for me in the case with CCGs as I tend to only get bored and leave, but it has happened in other games.
So, I think I have to agree with the Bo, perhaps give a serious look into alternatives rather than keeping company with weenies.
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Anyway, I'm actually having this discussion right now with someone else - about how most of the people in #l5r these days are raging assholes. And it's funny when one of my friends who's a raging asshole is sick of the game in part because he can't stand many of the OTHER raging assholes.
I don't know that "casual play" is the answer. I love to win in odd ways, but I like to win - and I've found that most casual players seem to play that way so at least when the lose, they can claim somebody else wasn't playing casually enough, or something (like maybe I should leave guys to clog my provinces, I dunno).
But yeah, you're far from alone in thinking the player base seems to be going to hell. It makes me more clannish at major events, rather than trying to meet everyone, and it's a raging bitch to try judging when people are being absolute dicks.
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I'm just sayin'.
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