Consequences:

[jrittenhouse]

More stuff coming out on the octuplet stuff.

The dirty secret that many fertility clinics don’t want people to notice is that they sell hope by the very expensive bucketful, and their stats / success rate is actually worse than advertised if you can get past the caveats and BS.  But if the people don’t have hope, they won’t come into the clinic,

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[amysuemom]

While I tend to agree that this woman likely has some major issues, I remind everyone that so far not one of her children has been flagged as being neglected or abused! The fact that she is poor or single or even has functional MH issues does mean we get to preemptively take away her kids!

The hypocrisy surrounding this astounds me! Yeah, the doc involved is self-serving and may indeed be seen to have violated various tax codes and maybe some medical ones as well, but it's still a private choice and suddenly saying that reproductive privacy extends only to people you think deserve it is wrong.

All that said, should their be more oversight into the huge business that is reproductive medicine? Absolutely. The way to do that though is not to string this woman up by her toes.

imho

[amysuemom]

Um that should read "doesn't mean we get to preemtpiviely take her children away"

[jrittenhouse]

I think that the state of California is going to be under such colossal pressure on this to gig someone that DCFS will be all over her home situation. She will have home inspections up the wazoo to see if she is handling things; if she was mnessing up and flying under the radar before, she won't be able to do so now. This isn't my preference, this is what I think will happen.

Same thing with the doc. If this was Angelina Jolie and she was well-off but looney (think Michael Jackson's kids or Mia Farrow's 15 kids - some bio, most adopted) the most that would happen is that they'd shake their heads and roll their eyes. But the question is - where did the money for the IVFs come from? Did the Doc eat it? Did he charge the state of California and lie about it? Did he fake her costs into costs for other people? Hard to say. (When we went through IVF stuff, it cost about $10000 a try, and insurance paid for it.)

[jerusha]

Not to mention that, of the six existing kids, one is diagnosed autistic and two others have some level of developmental delay/disability such that they're receiving state funds. I don't know what standards of care the state requires, and what might get increased supervision and/or removal of a child from custody, but I cannot believe that those children in particular will get the attention they need with one parent in the house. (I haven't seen any references to her church helping out; the quotes that I've seen from the octuplets' mother and grandmother (mom's mom) indicate that Mom thinks that Grandma will happily step in and help her (read: take over); Grandma isn't as sure

[jerusha]

And here's another stunning quote (from the Trib article jrittenhouse linked:

"In Nadya's view, the money that she gets from the food stamp program . . . and the resources disabilities payments she gets for her three children are not welfare," Furtney said. "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare."

So, I guess the obvious follow-up question is, if welfare isn't a program "designed to help people with need", what the h-ll does she think it is?

[jrittenhouse]

Anything she wants it to be. That sky in her world is paisley, for starters.