jre

ramblings on freshman year

Jul 07, 2003 19:14

These days when people ask me what I think of Yale I'm careful to parse the question - Yale the corporation is an exploitative, hypocritical megacompany which fails to live up to or pursue the ideals of its rhetoric and discourages the students it strives to educate from recognizing connections between their community and their nation, between ( Read more... )

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bassactor July 7 2003, 18:00:25 UTC
You are a fascinating person. The problem, as I see it, with liberal thinking (I am a liberal, so I am looking at this outside of my box) is forcing other people to agree and change… or not forcing, but convincing people to believe what you believe. The quickest way protests or declarations can change anything is having someone in power see the demonstrations and believe in that cause. That’s the conundrum, because people in power are usually the people you’re fighting against!

And I understand the American principle of protecting the civil liberties, or the rights of the people, but right now most of the important people- even people who are so called “liberals in power”- are so concerned with protecting their assets (or money) that they won’t look beyond their backyard when it comes to dealing with money or helping people worse off than themselves. Sure they’ll raise their voice and “state” what should happen to other people, but when it comes to make sacrifices hurting themselves (even if it will help humanity in the long run) they would rather avoid the issue!

America as a community is very apathetic about anything happening to change anything happening! What I mean by this is everything progresses very slowly because people in general aren’t receptive to change. They are scared by it. And this applies to music and movies and sports and games as well as politics or the way people live. I always use music as an example because I understand it the best, but Beethoven and Mahler and Strauss weren’t accepted as “great” composers until after they were dead! The “popular” music during Mahler’s time was very “classical” in nature, music the “populous” understood (he was a composer during the “romantic era”). Of course there were people who liked Mahler’s music when he was alive, “liberal” thinkers in musical terms, and there were enough of them to have him writing compositions until he died (his main salary came from conducting), but Mahler was frustrated because no matter how many times he conducted his own pieces (demonstrations or rallies from a musical standpoint) the audience continued to boo!

I have no idea what I’m getting at. I’ve started to ramble, and I’ve gotten off topic several times (if I actually was on a topic to begin with). All I wanted to say really was continue to fight, and hopefully, you’ll be able to persuade the right people, or enough people, to fight along with you. And I know you have no idea who I am, but you don’t know 99.999999% of this country. Odds are if some random person responded to your journal, you wouldn’t know them!

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jre August 18 2003, 00:33:17 UTC
No, didn't realize that was you when you posted a comment...weird. Guess you found me. Sorry I never responded to what you wrote then - I meant to, and would have had an easier time remembering if I'd known who you were...

In brief, I'd say that I think one of the essential challenges of organizing on the left is finding a path which rejects the attraction on the one hand of seeking attractive self- and ideologically-compromising compromises which bring on external validation and earn the respect of the right people but sacrifice the chance of building an effective radical movement - and on the other hand, of ignoring outside feedback and slipping into a self-reinforcing trap where the refusal of others to share your vision can always be attributed to them and not to you, and in which your effectiveness in building something beyond yourself goes unnoticed because you've found a reflexively gratifying perch - and again are unable to build any kind of movement at all. In other words, I agree with you that visionaries are often appreciated only in retrospect, and that political courage is about saying what difficult and unpopular - but I also think that the greater courage is in taking a view that's unpopular - or more than unpopular - and aggressively selling it to people who'd rather refuse to hear it. Maybe what I'm saying, on a personal level, is that the most admirable radicals are the ones who are willing to lose friends in defense of principle - but gain a strength and a passion from that willingness which empowers them not to to lose those friends at all. I think it took me a long time to get beyond a place of glorifying (alternatively) conformity or alienation (personally and politically both, actually), to a place of organizing and building. I agree with you that there are too many people on the left who pledge fealty to democracy but would like to short-cut democratic processes by writing off people who aren't already sold on their vision of democracy - and too many all across the spectrum who prefer inertia to initiative and comfort to confusion.

This is likely quite incoherent - it's pretty late and I was falling asleep before I started writing this but it was important to me to finally respond. Thanks a great deal for your thoughts and support, and I hope you in your return to campus will also seek out ways to build and struggles to fight. How did you find my LJ? Did you read the original entry before or after the 4th? Again, very weird...

It was very good to meet you - hope to see you again soon. And hope that headache wore off...

Peace out.

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bassactor August 18 2003, 12:32:14 UTC
I'm actually very surprised to see that you responded after a month! I thought you might respond in the first week, if nothing else then to tell off a strange person who's writing in your journal! I'm guessing Sheira told you who I was, although I'm not sure how my livejournal name came up in conversation.

I found your journal through Danna's friends page. I used to (and still) check my friend's friends just to read interesting entries. I'm looking to be either a psychologist or a psychiatrist. I'm fascinated with how people think and reason. Usually I don't respond, but when I realized who you were (I actually assumed who you were based on your style and how similar what you wrote compared to the conversation on July 4th), and when I read your entry, I started writing- and I thought if it seemed ridiculous, you'd just ignore it.

Anyway, I really appreciate your comments. I hope to talk to you soon... and I'm glad to hear she didn't get you lost on your way out from the city!

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