Muslim terrorist holds 40-50 people prisoner in Sydney chocolate shop

Dec 14, 2014 22:35

According to Fox News, 3 people escaped the gunman.  He apparently forced several people inside the shop to hold up a black flag with the Arabic word "There is no god but Allah and Muhammed is his  Prophet" -- the famous Shitheada, or Declaration of Insanity that all Muslims learn to bleat ( Read more... )

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skarman December 15 2014, 22:24:43 UTC
You know what I find ironic? This guy, came to Australia as a political refugee in 1996. Now, if you read that, you might think that he left Iran because he wasn't happy with the way Khomeini's followers were running the country, like so many other Persians who fled, do. You'd think he sought freedom.

Yet, once in his new country, he began preaching exactly the same principles as the leaders in his native land preach. Upholding the same ideals. So, to me that say that he wasn't a political refugee but an infiltrator, send by the Iranian government.

I know, I know, people will say that I'm a conspiracy nut, but look at the facts. He wanted to implement the same laws in Australia as are presently employed in his native Iran. He supports the IS. THAT is not the definition of a political refugee fleeing oppression but of a representative of that ideology. Maybe he wasn't sent by Iran. Maybe he was there because he felt compelled to 'spread the word of the book' on his own. That still makes him an agent.

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little_e_ December 15 2014, 22:49:02 UTC
Much more likely the "refugee" business was just an opportunistic con to get out of a country with a shitty economy and into one with a nice economy, or he had some other sort of ethnic or political conflict with the Iranian gov't, not a religious one.

As infiltration strategies go, randomly taking over a chocolate shop nearly two decades after emigrating just doesn't sound very effective.

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banner December 16 2014, 01:43:54 UTC
he wasn't a refugee, he was a missionary.

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ford_prefect42 December 16 2014, 04:33:24 UTC
Actually... Iran is Shia, if he's Sunni, as flying an Isis flag would indicate....

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galadrion December 16 2014, 14:13:53 UTC
Yet, once in his new country, he began preaching exactly the same principles as the leaders in his native land preach. Upholding the same ideals. So, to me that say that he wasn't a political refugee but an infiltrator, send by the Iranian government.

Actually, you're probably not right about this; the man probably was a refugee from Khomeini and the rest, since he was bitterly opposed to them. However, you need to remember this: he was not opposed to them based on any ideological differences; he was only opposed to them based on his own position under their regime. Had Khomeini and the others granted him what he considered his due, he would have been one of their most enthusiastic supporters.

When you hear the term "political refugee", please remember that most of the time, it translates directly to "surviving loser of a power struggle" rather than "oppressed victim". Most oppressed victims never survive long enough to get away from their oppressors.

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