PNA Claims Israelis Assassinated Yassir Arafat

[jordan179]

From ANSAMed "Arafat:  PNA commission says Israel is the sole suspect" (Nov 2nd, 2013):

''We believe Israel is the sole suspect in the death of Arafat'', Palestinian intelligence chief Tawfiq al-Tirawi and commission member told reporters at a news briefing

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The biggest secret about arafat is that he was gay. I wouldn't be surprised if he died from AIDS, and they are saying this because they can't report that! It would hurt his image.

Also the Russians stood to gain a lot by his death, he was their pawn for years, and he had ceased being useful by anything more than his death.

[xiphias]

The AIDS idea doesn't make sense to me. People who die from AIDS die of opportunistic infections: AIDS doesn't kill directly, but rather by destroying the body's ability to fight off other things. You would never have to report AIDS -- you'd just report the disease that actually did the killing. Besides, nobody would have any problem believing "natural causes" of some sort. That's what pretty much everyone DID believe. You don't need to cover up something that nobody knows or was looking for.

Incidentally, how did you find out about this secret?

I'm trying to figure out what the Russians -- well, let's be honest: Putin -- would gain by this, and all I can think of is wacky-conspiracy-convoluted enough that I can't convince myself of it.

The Russians were supporting Arafat largely as a proxy war against the United States, and Putin wants to re-start the Cold War. And ... and that's where I stop. I can't figure out how Arafat's death would help.

[jordan179]

The only motive I can see is that Arafat may have been toying with the notion of actually making peace, or at least a truce. In a compound surrounded by the Israelis he was a de facto prisoner, and the fact that his own precious hide might thus have been on the line might have led him toward a less aggressive policy.

To say that the Russians only supported Arafat because he was useful if anything understates the issue: the Russians find all the Arabs positively disgusting and basically see them as so many walking weapons with which to harass their enemies. There is as far as I know not even the mutual-elite friendly relations that, for instance, US Presidents usually have with the Saudi royal family: the Russians feel both racial and religious hatred and contempt for the Arabs.

[luagha]

It was well-enough known while Arafat was alive. His pattern of illnesses in later life matched up with Aids-related complications, and the length of time he took to die under medical care also matches up with Aids-related complications.

Even under medical care, you die much faster from Polonium poisoning and it's obvious that you are dying from radiation. We would have known when he was dying in France.

The polonium bs is just bs for gullible Arabs to make a stupid story. Polonium would be long since degraded and undetectable which is the whole point. It's just another way of trying to slough off the rumors of Arafat's Aids-related illness and gun up some kind of blame.

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It's been out there for ages. Also look at the man's history, until he got 'married' you never once saw him with a female, but with a lot of young men.

A number of former intelligence people have mentioned it many times as well, and I think something may even have some out of the kremlin back when a lot of their stuff was opened up after the collapse of the USSR about how they were always setting him up with young men.

What is currently gained by this is inflamming young arab men against Israel, and it helps quiet the now VERY LOUD rumor circulating that arafat was gay. Again, why do you think he suddenly got married as an old man? Because everyone was saying that he was gay.

[jordan179]

The biggest secret about arafat is that he was gay.

Well, he might have been dominant-bisexual, which is a very common male orientation in the Arab and Muslim worlds. This doesn't fit our map of sexual orientations very well, but it used to be very common especially in the Late-Classical World. It means that you are sexually attracted to "feminine" looking people, male or female, and in either case you "play the man," meaning that in sex with "men" (usually in fact boys) you penetrate but are never penetrated, and with women you are probably always on top.

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Bi? Nope, gay. Until he got married you never once saw him in any kind of relationship with a woman. And that whole married looked very much like a smoke screen.

[jordan179]

He had been a valuable piece but was now in a position where he couldn't be moved. If dead, another piece would spawn in a better position on the board. To mix chess and computer-gaming metaphors!