I don't necessarily recommend always arguing with these idiots (and their view is idiotic, regardless of their IQs) -- but now and again, one is called upon to do it.
Any way, I got some good ideas from your arguments.
Also, while you may not make a dent directly, sometimes these arguments sink in over time. It took me awhile to change my thinking from left to right, but reading these sorts of arguments would have helped.
I argued with people before about these things, even back when I was on the left, and was always puzzled by the whole mess. I think that before, I already had libertarian ideas more or less, and thought - I was on the far left. But, over time I came to see, that I really was NOT on the same side as these people, we thought very differently about these matters. I don't think I was exposed much to another way of thinking about it, so it is good that from time to time, these arguments are made publicly. Someone, somewhere may see them and get a clue or discover a new way of thinking. You never know.
The left is becoming fairly monolithic, at least among certain types of people. And, unfortunately, those are educated people more or less. With universities and the other schools leaning strongly toward this nonsense, it is becoming the status quo. I know Melanie Phillips talks about this, how the people who are the most out of touch with reality (I think that these left wing ideas about race are fantasy based and not reality based) are the ones who are, alas, the most educated (the elites). Everyone else still has some semblance of sense. I see what she means. Not good.
The left is becoming fairly monolithic, at least among certain types of people. And, unfortunately, those are educated people more or less. With universities and the other schools leaning strongly toward this nonsense, it is becoming the status quo. I know Melanie Phillips talks about this, how the people who are the most out of touch with reality (I think that these left wing ideas about race are fantasy based and not reality based) are the ones who are, alas, the most educated (the elites). Everyone else still has some semblance of sense. I see what she means. Not good.
The academic Left live in a culture that protects them from everything that might make them suspect their beliefs are wrong and their lives wasted. They are, in short, protected from the consequences of their beliefs and actions; if they weren't, they'd eventually discard those beliefs for something that worked better. The Ivory-Tower community has a lot to answer for.
Any way, I got some good ideas from your arguments.
Also, while you may not make a dent directly, sometimes these arguments sink in over time. It took me awhile to change my thinking from left to right, but reading these sorts of arguments would have helped.
I argued with people before about these things, even back when I was on the left, and was always puzzled by the whole mess. I think that before, I already had libertarian ideas more or less, and thought - I was on the far left. But, over time I came to see, that I really was NOT on the same side as these people, we thought very differently about these matters. I don't think I was exposed much to another way of thinking about it, so it is good that from time to time, these arguments are made publicly. Someone, somewhere may see them and get a clue or discover a new way of thinking. You never know.
The left is becoming fairly monolithic, at least among certain types of people. And, unfortunately, those are educated people more or less. With universities and the other schools leaning strongly toward this nonsense, it is becoming the status quo. I know Melanie Phillips talks about this, how the people who are the most out of touch with reality (I think that these left wing ideas about race are fantasy based and not reality based) are the ones who are, alas, the most educated (the elites). Everyone else still has some semblance of sense. I see what she means. Not good.
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The academic Left live in a culture that protects them from everything that might make them suspect their beliefs are wrong and their lives wasted. They are, in short, protected from the consequences of their beliefs and actions; if they weren't, they'd eventually discard those beliefs for something that worked better. The Ivory-Tower community has a lot to answer for.
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