Children's Cru ..., Sorry, I Meant "Occupy Wall Street" Prepares for Cold Weather
From "How Are Occupy Wall Street Protesters Preparing For Frigid Winter Weather? Like This," by Billy Hallowell in Blaze:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-are-occupy-wall-street-protesters-preparing-for-frigid-winter-weather-like-this/
Note that in the photo, no one is dressed warmly enough for a New York City winter. They truly don't get what's going to hit them ...
With the temperature dropping, they are stockpiling donated coats, blankets and scarves, trying to secure cots and military-grade tents, and getting survival tips from the homeless people who have joined their encampments.
This implies that they didn't bring warm winter clothing, and in many cases that they can't get it from home, which further implies that many of them come from much gentler climates. They really don't get it -- in the right weather conditions New York City gets the Canada Express, a sub-Arctic wind that whips down the Hudson River Valley right off the cold plains of northern New York State; and when the wind blows from the other direction, the city sometimes gets winter storms right off the North Atlantic. If they have only seen New York City in warm weather (and it can get almost tropical in summer), they don't grasp what's coming in.
Truly, my natal city is marvelously located for international trade, but very poorly located from the point of view of year-round comfort. Our worst blizzards have been known to kill dozens of people who were merely trying to get to or from work. Trying to camp out in a New York City blizzard is not something the inexperienced should try.
Oh, and those homeless people? Most of them survive either by sleeping by a steam or on a subway grate in winter, under lots and lots of blankets (the cops won't roust them in that weather save to put them in shelters or a nice warm jail cell, because said cops know it would be next cousin to murder). They do not try to erect tents or stay out in the middle of a big open plaza. The ones who try that sort of thing have a name the next morning. That name is "frozen corpses." And some of them do indeed meet that fate, every winter.
“Everyone’s been calling it our Valley Forge moment,” said Michael McCarthy, a former Navy medic in Providence. “Everybody thought that George Washington couldn’t possibly survive in the Northeast.”
Valley Forge is in Pennsylvania, moron. And it's south of that mountain range that the Hudson River Valley cuts through, so kindly for riverboat trade and so very, very unkindly for our winter weather. And the Continental Army had George freaking Washington leading them, with Von Steuben seeing to the safety of the camp. Who's leading you? And it still lost over one-sixth of its numbers to disease and exposure.
But the dangers of staying outdoors in some of the country’s harsher climes are already becoming apparent: In Denver, two protesters were hospitalized with hypothermia this week during a storm that brought several inches of snow.
Note that "hospitalized with hypothermia" means a bit more than "was a bit uncomfortably cold." It means that they were probably suffering frostbite and definitely having their metabolisms starting to shut down. Though, admittedly, Denver Colorado is a bit colder than New York City, and it's at high altitude to boot (which reaises a whole new set of metabolic problems for people who haven't lived long at a mile above sea level).
The activists also know full well that the number of demonstrators is likely to drop as the weather gets colder.
Yes, but do they "know full well" that this "drop" may occur through partially Malthusian effects?
Some movements are scouting locations indoors, including vacant buildings or other unused properties, possibly even foreclosed homes, though some question the wisdom of holding a protest outside the public eye.
Ah, so they are going to try to squat in vacant buildings?
Several problems. To begin with, many of these vacant buildings are owned, and the owners may choose not to let them squat there. The ones which have absentee owners who do not check the property often already have squatters -- I'm envisioning lots of laffs and arcade-style action when the three-cornered war between landlord agents, regular squatters, and Occupiers gets well underway. Finally, these vacated buildings were generally vacated for a reason -- a lot of them are neither structurally-sound nor particularly well-insulated against a New York City winter.
Oh, and if they are vacant they probably don't have electricity or central heating. Or it's been shut off. Gee, what could go wrong when a bunch of arrogant and ignorant teenagers and twenty-somethings start messing around with electricity, gas and open flames while wearing winter clothes including gloves or mittens? Can't see any potential hazards there, no siree Bob ...
Lighting campfires is probably out of the question in most places because of safety regulations.
ROFLMAO!!!
Well let's see, I'm pretty sure they had "fire" technology at Valley Forge, so Occupy Wall Street is behind General Washington and Colonel Von Steuben on that score. But the really funny part is "because of safety regulations." No, dimwits, because of REALITY. Campfires, idiots, high winds, lots and lots of tents and blankets with sleeping people in them -- can't see any disaster being assembled there, nope, not at all. All it needs now is Mrs. O'Leary's cow.
Want to know the really funny part? The Wall Street skyscrapers are close to fireproof. Short of very large scale deliberate arson (think crashing jetliners), they won't burn. Only the morons and their tents will burn.
And, from around the Wide World of Morons ...
Boston’s Occupy movement, which has roughly 300 overnight participants and could face some of the most brutal weather of any city with a major encampment, has set up a winterization committee that will try to obtain super-insulated sleeping bags and other winter survival gear.
Oh, do try. It's not that urgent. As we all know, it never gets cold in Boston ...
In Providence, where city officials are threatening to go to court to evict hundreds of campers from a park across from City Hall, a core group said it will remain through the winter months - if not there, somewhere else. Rhode Island’s capital has an average low temperature in the 20s from December through February and recorded nearly 3 1/2 feet of snow last year. Many of the more than 100 tents are not built to withstand harsh conditions.
... winds whipping from the Atlantic across the Sound into the Bay ... no problem with that, I'm sure all the tents will be properly staked to Antarctic standards, right?
And in Denver ...
... as protesters prepared for this week’s snow, a few dozen sympathizers stopped by to drop off blankets, gloves, chili and hot chocolate. Police refused to let activists erect a tent. That left some sleeping on the wet ground, covered by snowy tarps.
“I welcome the challenge of this cold weather,” said Dwayne Hudson, a landscaper who has been living at the Occupy Denver site for nearly two weeks. “This is like war. You know, soldiers do it when they occupy a place. I’m sure the mountains of Afghanistan get pretty cold.”
Why yes, in fact they do. And this is why the US Army has proper equipment and training. You know, the equipment and training that you DON'T have? They also first gain military control of the place (you know, what you clearly lack given that the cops could take the tents?) and ensure that they have secure supply lines.
Eric Martin, who is on Occupy Boston’s winterization committee, said the group had raised about $35,000, which could help buy winter supplies. Various ideas are being discussed to keep tents warm without using combustion-based heaters, which are forbidden.
Firebending, perhaps? Really, the fact that you are in an environment where you are forbidden by superior armed force to make fire should be a clue that you should not try to tough out the winter in the open.
Another proposal: igloos.
(*sigh*)
This only works if you have a lot of firm snow, and a long cold winter. The Inuit only do this in the colder parts of Alaska and Canada -- they do not generally try to do it on the southern coast, where alternating warm and cold spells would melt their igloos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igloo
One also has to know how to do this, which is a little harder than it sounds if you want a stable structure with sufficient room.
Activists in Philadelphia are also researching sturdier, warmer structures that could replace the 300 to 400 tents set up on the concrete plaza surrounding City Hall.
These are called "houses." No city with any sane muncipal administration will let you annex their plazas and build a shantytown there. And given your lack of electricity, you're going to need "combustion-based heaters" to inhabit those houses in a cold winter. And the cops won't let you do that either.
Chris Goldstein of Riverside, N.J., owns one of the tents, though he sometimes sleeps at home. He learned the hard way during the first rainfall that the site has poor drainage: “I occupied a puddle.”
Chris, who horribly enough may be some sort of maternal kin of mine (you have my mother's maiden name), meet pneumonia, arthritis, trenchfoot and water-borne parasitical diseases! Assorted ills, meet Chris!
The self-employed writer and activist put pallets under the tent to lift it off the ground, and outfitted it with small carpets for insulation.
Yes. Hopefully the cops will demolish the house you are building on city property. Then you will once again be sleeping in a puddle. If they don't, you're still going to face a cold winter in a freaking tent with the wind blowing right up under your props. Though at least you're south of the Appalachian Mountains, and your group may even manage to have less than one in six dead, unlike General Washington's who was camped within 75 miles of where you are camping.
In the meantime, he and other activists have access to a Quaker community center two blocks away where they can shower and thaw out in common rooms.
Admittedly, Washington didn't have that. Though note that if the weather gets really rough, the community center may not be able to stay open. Furthermore, if there are too many of you Occupiers, you may swamp (hah-hah!) its resources.
In Chicago, where winters are famously bitter, protesters living in Grant Park are working to secure several indoor locations to get them through to spring. A church nearby is letting some demonstrators sleep overnight. Activists in Portland, Ore., likewise said that moving the protest inside is the only realistic option.
Nobody cares if you protest inside Do that, and at least you won't be blocking traffic.
Though you will be depriving all of us of the fun of seeing you try to camp out in Chicago in winter. And the spring thaw game of "guess how many bodies the snow will reveal."
This is just funny on so many levels ... :D
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-are-occupy-wall-street-protesters-preparing-for-frigid-winter-weather-like-this/
Note that in the photo, no one is dressed warmly enough for a New York City winter. They truly don't get what's going to hit them ...
With the temperature dropping, they are stockpiling donated coats, blankets and scarves, trying to secure cots and military-grade tents, and getting survival tips from the homeless people who have joined their encampments.
This implies that they didn't bring warm winter clothing, and in many cases that they can't get it from home, which further implies that many of them come from much gentler climates. They really don't get it -- in the right weather conditions New York City gets the Canada Express, a sub-Arctic wind that whips down the Hudson River Valley right off the cold plains of northern New York State; and when the wind blows from the other direction, the city sometimes gets winter storms right off the North Atlantic. If they have only seen New York City in warm weather (and it can get almost tropical in summer), they don't grasp what's coming in.
Truly, my natal city is marvelously located for international trade, but very poorly located from the point of view of year-round comfort. Our worst blizzards have been known to kill dozens of people who were merely trying to get to or from work. Trying to camp out in a New York City blizzard is not something the inexperienced should try.
Oh, and those homeless people? Most of them survive either by sleeping by a steam or on a subway grate in winter, under lots and lots of blankets (the cops won't roust them in that weather save to put them in shelters or a nice warm jail cell, because said cops know it would be next cousin to murder). They do not try to erect tents or stay out in the middle of a big open plaza. The ones who try that sort of thing have a name the next morning. That name is "frozen corpses." And some of them do indeed meet that fate, every winter.
“Everyone’s been calling it our Valley Forge moment,” said Michael McCarthy, a former Navy medic in Providence. “Everybody thought that George Washington couldn’t possibly survive in the Northeast.”
Valley Forge is in Pennsylvania, moron. And it's south of that mountain range that the Hudson River Valley cuts through, so kindly for riverboat trade and so very, very unkindly for our winter weather. And the Continental Army had George freaking Washington leading them, with Von Steuben seeing to the safety of the camp. Who's leading you? And it still lost over one-sixth of its numbers to disease and exposure.
But the dangers of staying outdoors in some of the country’s harsher climes are already becoming apparent: In Denver, two protesters were hospitalized with hypothermia this week during a storm that brought several inches of snow.
Note that "hospitalized with hypothermia" means a bit more than "was a bit uncomfortably cold." It means that they were probably suffering frostbite and definitely having their metabolisms starting to shut down. Though, admittedly, Denver Colorado is a bit colder than New York City, and it's at high altitude to boot (which reaises a whole new set of metabolic problems for people who haven't lived long at a mile above sea level).
The activists also know full well that the number of demonstrators is likely to drop as the weather gets colder.
Yes, but do they "know full well" that this "drop" may occur through partially Malthusian effects?
Some movements are scouting locations indoors, including vacant buildings or other unused properties, possibly even foreclosed homes, though some question the wisdom of holding a protest outside the public eye.
Ah, so they are going to try to squat in vacant buildings?
Several problems. To begin with, many of these vacant buildings are owned, and the owners may choose not to let them squat there. The ones which have absentee owners who do not check the property often already have squatters -- I'm envisioning lots of laffs and arcade-style action when the three-cornered war between landlord agents, regular squatters, and Occupiers gets well underway. Finally, these vacated buildings were generally vacated for a reason -- a lot of them are neither structurally-sound nor particularly well-insulated against a New York City winter.
Oh, and if they are vacant they probably don't have electricity or central heating. Or it's been shut off. Gee, what could go wrong when a bunch of arrogant and ignorant teenagers and twenty-somethings start messing around with electricity, gas and open flames while wearing winter clothes including gloves or mittens? Can't see any potential hazards there, no siree Bob ...
Lighting campfires is probably out of the question in most places because of safety regulations.
ROFLMAO!!!
Well let's see, I'm pretty sure they had "fire" technology at Valley Forge, so Occupy Wall Street is behind General Washington and Colonel Von Steuben on that score. But the really funny part is "because of safety regulations." No, dimwits, because of REALITY. Campfires, idiots, high winds, lots and lots of tents and blankets with sleeping people in them -- can't see any disaster being assembled there, nope, not at all. All it needs now is Mrs. O'Leary's cow.
Want to know the really funny part? The Wall Street skyscrapers are close to fireproof. Short of very large scale deliberate arson (think crashing jetliners), they won't burn. Only the morons and their tents will burn.
And, from around the Wide World of Morons ...
Boston’s Occupy movement, which has roughly 300 overnight participants and could face some of the most brutal weather of any city with a major encampment, has set up a winterization committee that will try to obtain super-insulated sleeping bags and other winter survival gear.
Oh, do try. It's not that urgent. As we all know, it never gets cold in Boston ...
In Providence, where city officials are threatening to go to court to evict hundreds of campers from a park across from City Hall, a core group said it will remain through the winter months - if not there, somewhere else. Rhode Island’s capital has an average low temperature in the 20s from December through February and recorded nearly 3 1/2 feet of snow last year. Many of the more than 100 tents are not built to withstand harsh conditions.
... winds whipping from the Atlantic across the Sound into the Bay ... no problem with that, I'm sure all the tents will be properly staked to Antarctic standards, right?
And in Denver ...
... as protesters prepared for this week’s snow, a few dozen sympathizers stopped by to drop off blankets, gloves, chili and hot chocolate. Police refused to let activists erect a tent. That left some sleeping on the wet ground, covered by snowy tarps.
“I welcome the challenge of this cold weather,” said Dwayne Hudson, a landscaper who has been living at the Occupy Denver site for nearly two weeks. “This is like war. You know, soldiers do it when they occupy a place. I’m sure the mountains of Afghanistan get pretty cold.”
Why yes, in fact they do. And this is why the US Army has proper equipment and training. You know, the equipment and training that you DON'T have? They also first gain military control of the place (you know, what you clearly lack given that the cops could take the tents?) and ensure that they have secure supply lines.
Eric Martin, who is on Occupy Boston’s winterization committee, said the group had raised about $35,000, which could help buy winter supplies. Various ideas are being discussed to keep tents warm without using combustion-based heaters, which are forbidden.
Firebending, perhaps? Really, the fact that you are in an environment where you are forbidden by superior armed force to make fire should be a clue that you should not try to tough out the winter in the open.
Another proposal: igloos.
(*sigh*)
This only works if you have a lot of firm snow, and a long cold winter. The Inuit only do this in the colder parts of Alaska and Canada -- they do not generally try to do it on the southern coast, where alternating warm and cold spells would melt their igloos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igloo
One also has to know how to do this, which is a little harder than it sounds if you want a stable structure with sufficient room.
Activists in Philadelphia are also researching sturdier, warmer structures that could replace the 300 to 400 tents set up on the concrete plaza surrounding City Hall.
These are called "houses." No city with any sane muncipal administration will let you annex their plazas and build a shantytown there. And given your lack of electricity, you're going to need "combustion-based heaters" to inhabit those houses in a cold winter. And the cops won't let you do that either.
Chris Goldstein of Riverside, N.J., owns one of the tents, though he sometimes sleeps at home. He learned the hard way during the first rainfall that the site has poor drainage: “I occupied a puddle.”
Chris, who horribly enough may be some sort of maternal kin of mine (you have my mother's maiden name), meet pneumonia, arthritis, trenchfoot and water-borne parasitical diseases! Assorted ills, meet Chris!
The self-employed writer and activist put pallets under the tent to lift it off the ground, and outfitted it with small carpets for insulation.
Yes. Hopefully the cops will demolish the house you are building on city property. Then you will once again be sleeping in a puddle. If they don't, you're still going to face a cold winter in a freaking tent with the wind blowing right up under your props. Though at least you're south of the Appalachian Mountains, and your group may even manage to have less than one in six dead, unlike General Washington's who was camped within 75 miles of where you are camping.
In the meantime, he and other activists have access to a Quaker community center two blocks away where they can shower and thaw out in common rooms.
Admittedly, Washington didn't have that. Though note that if the weather gets really rough, the community center may not be able to stay open. Furthermore, if there are too many of you Occupiers, you may swamp (hah-hah!) its resources.
In Chicago, where winters are famously bitter, protesters living in Grant Park are working to secure several indoor locations to get them through to spring. A church nearby is letting some demonstrators sleep overnight. Activists in Portland, Ore., likewise said that moving the protest inside is the only realistic option.
Nobody cares if you protest inside Do that, and at least you won't be blocking traffic.
Though you will be depriving all of us of the fun of seeing you try to camp out in Chicago in winter. And the spring thaw game of "guess how many bodies the snow will reveal."
This is just funny on so many levels ... :D