Putting Down the Occupier Protests

[jordan179]

this grew from a comment I made in http://melvin-udall.livejournal.com/1327177.html?view=8037193#t8037193

I find amusing and incomprehensible that notion that throwing bottles and rocks at police does not constitute "violence." I've actually been

Comments

[marycatelli]

Throwing rocks has been used as a method of execution.

All those who throw rocks should therefore be prosecuted for attempted murder.

[ext_531464]

I daresay you're part of the problem.

[gothelittle]

Yup, she's one of the people standing in the way of your desire to see the United States torn down in its entirety and converted into one of those fascist or socialist regimes you like so much, complete with mass starvation and plenty of state-sanctioned murders.

I'm another.

I think you'll find she and I are not alone.

Too bad for you.

[ext_531464]

Yeah, let's trump up all their charges. Great idea! Just think of all the people they could get on death row.

[operations]

You didn't even read what they wrote. There is no other explanation for the intellectual disconnect right there.

[jordan179]

O mighty Lawyerspawn, it seems to have escaped your attention that one does not face capital charges in any State of the Union for attempted murder.

[ford_prefect42]

Standing ready.

[jordan179]

What "problem?" The "problem" of considering rock-throwing to constitute a serious attempt on someone else's life?

I am part of that problem too!

[cutelildrow]

So am I.

[ext_531464]

I have a problem with applying charges of attempted murder to what would otherwise be considered assault.

[jordan179]

Assault and battery -- note that if a stone is cast and hits that it's more than simple "assault," as you should know, lawyer-spawn.

Having said that, I don't know that over-charging criminals is a major "problem" of which one can be said to be "part." I suspect you originally meant something else.

[oronoda]

Considering attempted murder has more to do with intent I think it is fair to say you could add on the charges. I mean why else would they be purposely throwing rocks? To give the police candy?

[jordan179]

Well, if I were the defense in this case I would argue that my clients were only trying to keep the police back, and didn't believe that the rocks they threw would kill riot-armored police. Which they probably wouldn't. Of course, if the rioters started throwing (say) cinderblocks or Molotov cocktails, that would be different.

[ext_531464]

No I wouldn't, because I'm not a lawyer, I'm not related to any lawyers, and I don't know any lawyers.

[headnoises]

Generally, hitting someone with a rock or bottle in a bar fight is "assault with a deadly weapon."

[jordan179]

Then you are part of "the problem" too! :D