"White Feminist Privilege in Organizations" - an Adventure in Hilarity

[jordan179]

Courtesy of firecat at http://firecat.livejournal.com/716757.html,

this is freaking hilarious. Semi-true, but also hilariousFrom Hepshiba's Pad at

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[polaris93]

All of which constitutes yet another good reason for us to colonize other planets and create habitats in places like the asteroid belt and then head for the stars: these heads-in-the-clouds feminists would quickly die out if any of them ever tried to migrate to such a colony. They'd either try ordering everyone else around, and get thrown out the airlocks sans environment suit, or ignore everything everyone had told them about how to survive there ("because, you see, the Patriarchy invented these Rules to Keep Us Down") and die horribly as the result of ignoring said Rules, or otherwise ace themselves out of it due to issues related to their damned Leftist drivel. Out there, the only things that matter are brains and common sense and a strong determination to use them as they are intended -- that, and the other people with you, on whom you will depend for your very life, which means your social awareness and skills. Nothing else. At least until we terraform those places, which will be a loooooonnnnggg time in coming. I mean, if one of them decided to emigrate to the Moon, she'd probably decide that since Artemis is her Friend, she could just waltz out onto the Moon's surface without wearing an environment suit or going there in a rover -- after all, Artemis will protect her followers from any and all perils. Right? (Flowers may be sent . . .)

Obviously, liberals and Leftists just won't make it off Earth. Which is why the rest of us need to go there. NOW.

[operations]

Why do you think that Obama et. all have gutted NASA lately? They don't want us to have a chance to escape their Deuteranopia.

[polaris93]

I know. That doesn't mean we can't do it, only that we'll have to find another way. Maybe hitching a ride on a Mongolian rocket. :-)

[operations]

Contrary to history, every Mongolian I have met has been a pretty nice guy (or girl). I could do that. And their will to survive is awesome, no one better to make the trip with...

[polaris93]

Agreed. In spades. You want to know something odd? History books describe Genghis Khan's life in terms of all the destruction the Mongols did, but the Mongols also established a system of post-roads going from the China Sea to eastern Europe so secure that it was said you could put a naked blond virgin girl on a white horse carrying two panniers full of gold at one end of the system and send her riding to the other end, and no one would molest her at any point on the route. No one would dare harm her or try for that gold or the horse. Why? Well, the Khan mandated some pretty gruesome penalties for those who committed crimes against harmless travelers on those roads. As a result, for the first time in history, caravans were able to go all the way from Europe to the China Sea and back again on those roads without fear of bandits, brigands, or highwaymen, and for decades there was a flourishing trade in goods and ideas between East and West. As a result, we -- the civilized world -- were able to put men on the Moon in 1969, rather than having to wait until, say, 2500 AD or later; we now have desktop computers that even very poor people (like me) have on our desktops, and the Internet, and wonderful gadgets like microwave ovens; and our biomedical science has come up with all sorts of marvelous medicines and therapies ranging from effective antibiotics, anesthetics, insulin, and other life-saving medicines to open-heart surgery, limb and even face transplants, safe childbirth, cleft-palate correction, and a host of others.

Furthermore, the place of women in the Khan's empire was higher than just about anywhere else in the world. Female archers comprised a good portion of his elite cavalary, and female warriors were highly respected as people. Even women taken for his harem had a good deal: they only had to remain in the harem and behave themselves for three years, after which they would be given a large dowery and released to marry anyone they wanted, and they rarely lacked for suitors, given the size of that dowery.

Finally, the Khan enforced absolute freedom of religion, what we call freedom of conscience. You could literally believe in any God or Gods you wanted, and privately practice your religion as you wished, including in the company of others of your faith. BUT: if you tried to force others to convert to your religion, as the Khan said, it had damned well better be to his religion (worship of the river-God), or else!

Mongol shamans are for real. Trust me on this. Mongol adults almost always are superlative bowmen -- catching your dinner by means of the bow is not so much a custom as a commonplace in Mongolia. Mongols can repair just about any gadget or machine, and upon encountering a new type of machine, will back-engineer it so they can have one of their own. And they can innovate -- oh, Lord, can they innovate! They see a need, they invent a tool, and away they go.

I like Mongols. XD

[oronoda]

Persia was like this too when it came to religion initially before extremist Islam took over (and even then, Persia/Iran is where Sufism was born). Anyone could worship in anyway they wanted. It was when people preached there was only one religion and tried to forcefully convert people that that person and his/her followers were met with a horrible death.

*sighs* So much has changed.

[polaris93]

Gheghis Khan lived during the 13th century. Not sure when Islam took over Iran. From what I know sbout ancient cultures, though, few if any were exclusionist and extremist when it came to religion. Old Rome, for example, permitted people to follow almost any religion as long as they allowed Rome to place icons of Jupiter and, perhaps, some of their other Gods in the temple belonging to others -- once in a while a Roman soldier came in and sacrificed meat or whatever to Jupiter, and that's all there was to it. As most people in the Roman Empire were pagans, there were few problems with this. The problems came in when Rome decided to take over the strip of land connecting Eurasia to Africa, because of its enormous strategic importance. Guess who lived there?

The Jews became the problem they did for Rome -- and vice-versa -- because while Jews had no intention of trying to conquer Rome or anything like it, they also had no desire to have icons of foreign pagan Gods in the Temple, and as for making sacrifices of pork on the altar of that icon (which is what Rome tried to do), as you can imagine, they hit the ceiling and went on the warpath. Which is when Rome clamped down "hard" on the people Israel and their land, which Rome named Judea. When an itinerant Jewish preacher named Yeshua ben Yoseph began preaching in Judea about a mysterious kingdom, and said he was its king -- that was how his teachings came back to Rome, garbled and mistranslated, as you can imagine -- Rome when after him and his followers hammer-and-tongs. After he himself was crucified, Rome went after anyone known to have been his followers at least that ruthlessly. But persecution makes monotheisms strong, especially those that teach love of God and one's neighbor, which is what happened with Christianity. So it was, ironically, that 400-500 years later, Christianity became so widespread in the Roman Empire that it finally became the Empire's official religion. (Rome did go after Druids hammer and tongs, but apparently it was because Druids burned prisoners of war alive to please the Gods, something Rome found an abomination, as they did all human sacrifice.)

As for the rest of the pagan world, China was very tolerant of pagan religions of any kind, as long as their followers didn't try to take over or challenge China. China remained that way until Mao took over in the late 1940s. From ancient times, Japan's official religion was Shinto (Shindo), and after the Americans no longer occupied her after WW 2, it became so again. But most Japanese are Buddhists, and a not insignificant number are Christian. Save for areas tightly controlled by Communism, the rest of Asia is pretty much the same.

Christianity went through its period of rigid intolerance of any religion by Christianity, especially in Europe, but that finally came to an end. In the 20th century, it was the nominally pagan Nazis who persecuted Christians, executing many of them, along with trying to exterminate the Jews. Fortunately, the "thousand-year" Third Reich lasted just 12 years before being ground under the heel of history. The Soviet Union, which was highly intolerant of religion in any form, collapsed after a little over 70 years. Central and South America are primarily Roman Catholic, but other Christians are usually welcome, so are Jews (who never number very many), even Buddhists (ditto). I haven't heard of religious intolerance in Mexico; we have the 1st Amendment; and Canada pretty much does the same.

It's only Islam now that is rigidly intolerant of other religions. Everybody else seems to have grown up. Thanks to Occasionalism, Islam became frozen into rigidity in the 12th century, and hasn't thawed out since. Once they found other cultures pulling ahead of them technologically and otherwise, they began to panic, and the rest is history.

[polaris93]

Well, let's see what happens and the elections next year. If the Senate goes the way the House has, gaining a Republican majority, even if Obama gets reelected, he'll be hard put to do anything during his lame-duck presidency. And if the Democrats are smart (which may not be the case, judging from the last few years of their shenanigans), they'll never again go for an openly Communist President (not to mention a world-class idiot, which is another story).

[marycatelli]

That's not the way to bet. Usually the President's party picks up seats in the House and Senate.

[polaris93]

I'm curious -- what will you do if your prediction turns about to be correct? Lead a charge against Congress or the White House? Turn non-Islamic jihadi? Or should we all just kill ourselves to avoid the awfulness about to overtake our country?

A prediction of some future unpleasantness is only useful if it includes a way to avoid the unpleasantness. This doesn't, save for speculations about killing off candidates or something, which is not anything I want to entertain or condone.

[ext_531464]

You could move to Israel or something.

[operations]

How's that house arrest going for you, Andy?

[marycatelli]

It can help you brace yourself.

And, anyways, the truth does not need the excuse of utility.

[polaris93]

Want to make a bet? There's a lot of us who are ready to throw in the towel on life because of what's already happened in this country. Why bother when the land you love has died and gone to hell? Why bother living when all our chances to colonize the Solar System and worlds beyond are forever gone, meaning that Earthly life, including humanity, has no more chances of surviving beyond Earth's death, the ultimate mass extinction. Why care enough to live? Why not die when God has obviously damned this country to hell and everyone in it with it? You think there aren't a lot of us out here who feel that way? We're standing on a ledge 200 stories up and trying to make up our minds as to whether or not to jump, and then you want to give us a push. Thanks a lot, sweetie!

[jordan179]

I don't think that Obama is in a position to do all that even if he wins the 2012 election. All he could do regarding the space program is to let America lag behind, and only for the duration of his Administration. Other countries, and private agencies, will continue with their own plans to expand beyond the Earth's surface.

And Obama will hardly be President forever, even if he wins in 2012 (which I find unlikely). He sucks, granted, but he simply doesn't have that much power in the long run, regardless of what his most crazed supporters imagine. He's an incompetent President, not some sort of dark god of cosmic destruction.

[polaris93]

I don't think that Obama is in a position to do all that even if he wins the 2012 election. All he could do regarding the space program is to let America lag behind, and only for the duration of his Administration. Other countries, and private agencies, will continue with their own plans to expand beyond the Earth's surface.

I hope so. It may be that things now emerging from my unconscious mind concerning my experiences as a child are coloring everything in the world only shades of gray for me, hence my despair. The thing is, my adoptive parents were nominally Republicans, and supposedly patriots, but my adoptive mother swore she would do everything in her power to destroy everything I care about, and she'd be having orgasms over what the Democrats, the Left, and the liberals have done to this country, because I love my country, and therefore she'd want to destroy it. Same deal about space. I realize that was then, this is now, but I'm having real trouble shaking "then" and keeping it from poisoning the "now." Not your fault. Sorry I'm such a nuisance.

And Obama will hardly be President forever, even if he wins in 2012 (which I find unlikely). He sucks, granted, but he simply doesn't have that much power in the long run, regardless of what his most crazed supporters imagine. He's an incompetent President, not some sort of dark god of cosmic destruction.

It's what he represents that is so horrible, the countless Americans who've fallen for his drivel, the American Left, the Democrats, and above all, the mainstream media. Whether he's re-elected or not, they'll still be going strong. With luck, after next year's election, both houses of Congress will have a Republican majority -- but the Republicans aren't much better than the Democrats any more, and the mainstream media won't change, except for the worse. There was an article in the Huffington Post today -- HuffPo is now AOL's news organ -- about Obama's visit to Joplin, MO, which was titled "Obama Acts As Healer-In-Chief In Tornado-Stricken Missouri," as if he were some sort of saint or beloved witch doctor. I'm sure the residents of Joplin aren't particularly concerned with anything but putting their lives back together, but there's a huge number of people who read HuffPo and believe every word in it, and HuffPo is obviously catering to the worship and adulation of Obama by liberals. And when he's finally out of there, whether in 2013 or 2017, HuffPo will still be there, smearing their smarmy propaganda all over the public psyche. That's what depresses me most of all.