Kudos to Terry Jones

[jordan179]

Terry Jones finally did burn a Koran, and I am glad of it. In doing so, he confirmed our freedom of speech, as American citizens. And I am pleased to see that others have been following in his footsteps

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[zornhau]

I used to have this girlfriend, back when I was sixteen.

We'd be walking through the street and some crazy homeless drunk guy would have his tackle out to piss against the wall (Edinburgh at the time was inundated with such people).

As we'd pass, she'd invairably exclaim, "THAT'S DISGUSTING!"

I'd hurry her on, knowing that she had every right to say it, but that her bravery was second hand - it would be me who got the beating if he turned on us.

In the same way, I think that a decent person would do their best before picking fights on behalf of soldiers deployed in the middle of complex operations in Muslim countries.

Even so, I applaud that it is still legal to burn Korans in the US.

[jordan179]

If you allow yourself to be restrained by the threat of force from doing them, then you are not really "free" to do them. Part of the long-term Muslim strategy, as exercised in Western countries around the world, is to make us kaffirim accord Islam special respect, above all other faiths for fear of "provoking" violence from Muslims. It is an Incredibly BAD Idea for us to go along with this strategy: if we wish to obtain responsible behavior from the Muslims, they need to be taught (and have the lesson rubbed into their face by force when necessary) that they cannot expect and will not receive any special respect for their attempts at intimidation, but will in fact receive less respect for it.

A freedom not defended by force at need ceases to be enjoyed by a society.

[jordan179]

In the same way, I think that a decent person would do their best before picking fights on behalf of soldiers deployed in the middle of complex operations in Muslim countries.

"Picking fights" implies that Terry Jones is offering a provocation. I fail to see how a man destroying his own property in another country is offering a provocation to Muslims in, say, Afghanistan or Pakistan. It should be the business of our government to rebuke foreigners who have the temerity to tell us that we should arrest Terry Jones, not enable them by rebuking Terry Jones.

Even so, I applaud that it is still legal to burn Korans in the US.

It won't be for long if we keep treating Terry Jones as if he's doing something wrong.

There is a morale factor here also. If we demand that our own citizens also submit to Islam, then we encourage the Terrorists: they scent victory. If we defy them, we discourage the Terrorists: they see that we are not cowed, despite all their efforts

[zornhau]

>I fail to see how a man destroying his own
>property in another country is offering a
>provocation to Muslims in, say, Afghanistan or
>Pakistan.

On TV. Having announced it to the world's media.

Come on! If you argue that he has the right and is right to make the point, despite the repercussions, then that's another thing.

[banner]

He's not the one who incited the muslims in Afghanistan to riot over it. Nor is he the one that told them about it.

Stop blaming him. Start blaming the ones who are using this event to try and make us accord islam special rights. And as for our soldiers, well let them kill whoever attacks them and take off the stupid rules of engagement that Obama put on them. If you're not in it to win it, you shouldn't be in it.

[zornhau]

I agree with the last part. If they attack, then let's show them what decadent Western technology can do.

However, I find it disturbing that you guys are talking as if this chap just happened to be caught on camera getting rid of some used books, one of which was the Koran.

[banner]

No, he did it on purpose. And I am happy he did it. We have the right to do such things in America. Muslims who want us to bow to them as they burn everyone else's holy books and rampage in the streets demanding we bow to their murderous creed can go F*** themselves.

But I'd like to point out that he's not the one who told the Afghanies about it. Nor is he the one who wiped them up to riot over it. Or murder people over it. Funny how everyone ignores the ones who did -that-.

To be honest, I'm tempted to go buy and burn a koran myself. All the idiots defending islam need to get it pounded through their heads that we need to rid the world of it, not protect it.

[cutelildrow]

The only thing that keeps me from burning a Koran is the same thing that keeps me from burning copies of the Twilight 'novels' -

I have better things to spend my scant finances on. ;)

[jordan179]

I fail to see how a man destroying his own property in another country is offering a provocation to Muslims in, say, Afghanistan or Pakistan.

On TV. Having announced it to the world's media.

He is publicly emphasizing the exercise of his rights. Why should foreigners expect us to moderate the exercise of our rights, on our own national soil, to please them? It strikes me that the reason they have this expectation at all, and hence are offended, is that we have recently been displaying weakness, so that they are outraged when we once again begin standing up for ourselves.

[jordan179]

There are no repercussions. The two events: Terry Jones burning a Koran, and mobs of rioting Muslims, are not morally linked.

[mosinging1986]

Whatever repercussions occur are the sole responsibility of the persons committing the acts.

What other group behaves in this manner? How many times have Christian symbols been publicly desecrated? 'Piss Christ' and the Madonna covered with cow dung are two off the of my head. Not only were there no riots by Christians (and certainly no murders!) but everyone bent over backwards to defend this filth in the name of "art".

How does a man burning private property force or even encourage people to behave like insane animals?

Think about how insane the mentality of these Muslims really is. In their view, a BOOK - which can be replaced - is more valuable than the lives of unique HUMAN BEINGS.

Think about that! How can we bow to this insanity?

[mosinging1986]

The difference is that those drunks were not organized as a whole and purposely attempting to take over the entire city with their vile behavior by making people afraid to say something under the fear of getting into a fight.

Islam is intent on taking over the world. One of their tactics is bullying people. If we don't start fighting back, pretty soon we won't be able to do anything at all. Look at the lack of freedoms and outright abuse that people suffer in sharia compliant countries. I'm sure you don't want to live like that.