In Finland on Thursday, a man went on a shooting spree in a shopping mall, killing his ex-girlfriend (who had taken out a restraining order against him) and four other mall workers, before killing himself
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I'll have to read more of the story to form a complete opinion of the matter. But as a side note, it always surprises and disgusts me when I see security guards of all kinds here in the U.S. with no guns! I've seen them in stores/malls and even banks. What are they supposed to do if something like this happens? Just yell, "STOP RIGHT THERE!" It's laughable. And tragic.
Who would want a job like that? Not me! Might as well have a bull's eye on your chest.
I worked a a security guard once, for about 3 weeks. I quit because I found out I was getting in more trouble for defending myself and someone in the establishment I was guarding with martial arts than I got in for breaking someone's arm while working as a bouncer.
Mind you, that idiot had a knife, but still. The job title includes the word guard for crying out loud...
Friend of mine in Oregon got fired for pulling a gun on kids who threatened him. He had a permit and the gun was legal, the security company he was working for at the time said he wasn't allowed to defend himself.
Good for him! The audacity of the company not allowing him to defend himself. He clearly didn't just kill the punks, just used it as a tool in his job.
On the other hand, given the attitudes of some rent-a-cops, I would not want them to have the official authority to carry guns. I'm uncomfortable enough with them having Mag-Lites and cuffs.
XD my stalker was a security cop and that's how he got his gun - he was in VA though. Honestly shit's gonna happen, I'd rather have freedom to make my own decisions than have the government decide what's "safer" for me.
I think there is a big difference between having the right to carry weapons for defend yourself or another from threat of great bodily harm (which should be universal -- jurisdictions that do not provide for this are barbaric), and the right to use weapons in a position of official authority to enforce the law or somebody's property rights when a deadly threat is not present. The latter makes you a higher class of citizen, and with that higher authority ought to come a heavier burden of responsibility. That's why I don't think mall cops should have guns. They tend to think of themselves as police, when they're not. We have enough problems with bona fide police abusing their authority without worrying about wannabes. Once they take off the uniform then they can provide for their own defense as they see fit.
(Did that make sense? I seem to be suffering from brain seize right now.)
Yeah, I don't really think anyone (even the real police) should have special privileges like that... Not saying that just anyone should be able to carry whatever weapon they like, just that if security people have to go through ___ background checks, training, licensing, etc to earn the right to carry a gun, then a private citizen should be able to as well, provided they pass the same standards.
Who would want a job like that? Not me! Might as well have a bull's eye on your chest.
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Mind you, that idiot had a knife, but still. The job title includes the word guard for crying out loud...
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He sued.
He won a bundle.
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YOUR ICON!
::dies laughing::
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Honestly shit's gonna happen, I'd rather have freedom to make my own decisions than have the government decide what's "safer" for me.
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(Did that make sense? I seem to be suffering from brain seize right now.)
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Not saying that just anyone should be able to carry whatever weapon they like, just that if security people have to go through ___ background checks, training, licensing, etc to earn the right to carry a gun, then a private citizen should be able to as well, provided they pass the same standards.
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Add the words, "Or Else".
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