I kind of giggled when Van Buren growled ‘I’m not a pot roast!’ Sick or not, tick her off and she’s going to kick the crap out of you.
I was wondering if it was something similar to the Times Square failed bombing too, until they started talking about teachers being suspended and having to wait days on end at sites until their hearings. Hadn’t even realized that the name of the episode was called “Rubber Room”. There was some news about the rubbers rooms about four or five months back. I think Bloomberg moved to get rid of them as one of the ways to streamline the city economy during the recession. Something along those lines, IIRC.
Hmm, did you notice the interaction between Connie and Lupo? ‘You were a kindergarten teacher?’ and Bernard telling him ‘Don’t go there.’ That and Connie being really amused by his joke as they were fading out makes me think there may have been a plot twist going on there, as Lupo being the father of Connie’s baby. Left me a bit crestfallen about my ship here, the way I was sort of seeing the situation. I like Lupo, but I like the idea of Connie with Mike much better. Mike can be an insensitive putz at times, but I just keep thinking of the episode “Just a girl in the world” and thinking Lupo’s judgment in relationships is even less than stellar. I just don’t see anything between him and Connie, if the writers wanted to go that path, as lasting. Mike, on the other hand, I could see doing everything and anything for her. I’d love to see a well written fanfic about a triangle between Connie, Mike and Lupo. That would be interesting.
I loved Jack chewing out the union lawyer. Union lawyers being worst than terrorists? He can be scarier than a union lawyer any given day.
Yeah, I did think both Jack and Mike’s reactions to Anita announcing that she was engaged as a little forced? Over the top? Well, maybe not Jack’s, because he’s known her for so long, but I definitely thought Mike’s was. I saw it as him still attempting to get back on her good side after he stepped his foot in it in the last episode.
I liked the fact that Wolf decided to bring in Skoda and Rodgers at the end. Skoda seems to have become less wishy washy over the years. I just remember an episode where Schiff groused at him, saying something along the lines of ‘Are you ever completely sure about anything?’ He seemed more on one side of a situation in recent years as opposed to being on the fence like he had been for some time in the beginning and middle years. And I would have really liked to have seen some sort of crossover reference with Rodgers and Criminal Intent, I would have always thought that would have been neat.
I saw that scene as Lupo holding back from making a joke (possibly rude/teasing) and Bernard being all " dude, Connie will kill you." it did strike me as odd, because it seemed more like a half-finished conversation, than anything, if that even makes sense...but I didn't see any Lupo/Connie undertones...
...and yes, while I am all about Connie/Mike, I'm generally good at seeing where other things -could- be read into scenes, but I didn't see it there...
....also, Alana ships Connie/Mike and it's SEEMED like the writer would go with that, if anything....
Who will ever know now...that's what fanfic is for...
I thought the same; it seemed like Lupo was about to make a joke something along the lines of hot teacher/librarian/etc. and Bernard was like, "uh...might want to rethink that one." And Connie clearly caught it as well, and was like, "yeah...good decision."
As for laughing at his joke at the end as we faded out, Connie was clearly happy and amused...but then so was Mike, who was right by her side the entire scene. ;)
I admit I am a Connie/Mike shipper, but it also seemed clear to me the writers were going that way. There was a reason that Mike's feelings (and Connie's too, to a lesser extent) were highlighted and hinted at for the past couple years; L&O didn't really focus on the personal (even when they added more of it), so they just didn't have the time or the inclination to build that all up and then twist it another way unnecessarily. They were building for a purpose, i.e., so that if they were going to take it somewhere, they had the framework. From a narrative standpoint, it would have been ridiculously bizarre if they hadn't gone Connie/Mike (if anything), IMO.
Anyway, if this is the end, I have to admit, it gave me some of the closure I desperately wanted. What a nice tribute to Van Buren/S. Epatha Merkerson. I'm still hoping something more can be negotiated, but as finales go, this was better than many.
Eh, maybe it's too much of the writer in me. I could see the writers being shippers, at least sort of, but also twisting it. Doing the 'oh, hey, it's the last season, will make things a tad more personal and do a twist so that all the Mike and Connie shippers are sitting there ripping their hair out for at least a half season, yelling 'You BASTARDS!' at the tv before righteously getting Mike and Connie together, simply just to mess with us and get the ratings. All I could see of Lupo and Connie anyway is a disastrous one night stand & Mike coming to Connie's rescue in the end. Hence me believing that we would have a half season or so of "You BASTARDS!" to getting Mike and Connie together and saying "Finally!" for the last couple of episodes. *coughs*But I guess maybe that would be too SVU or something.*coughs*
And yes, they were both laughing at Lupo's joke. Think I would have rather seen Connie laughing at something Mike said, or being inebriated enough to have an unguarded moment with him. I've seen a lot of feelings on Mike's part toward Connie being overt and specific, especially in "For the Defense", but not really anything on Connie's part. If Connie has expressed anything overt for Mike, please fill me in, because it may have been an episode that I have not seen. I'll admit I've not seen every episode that they've been in. I guess being a shipper, I'd rather not have the writers mess around, just get to the point.
If it were any other show, I could totally easily see them messing with fans like that, but since they kind of "fit the personal stuff in" between the procedure already, I think they would have probably kind of stuck to the straight-forward, at least in that arena, and left the drama to the cases. *coughs*unlike SVU*coughs* XD
At most, I could have seen them being ambiguous about the whole thing playing it off as everyone already knew off camera so no one's really discussing it...what fans? You didn't get the memo? Aww, you'll have to wait a while until someone says something.
"Think I would have rather seen Connie laughing at something Mike said, or being inebriated enough to have an unguarded moment with him."
I would have loved to have seen that, too. And, no, there has never been anything overtly expressed on Connie's part. More little things here and there that tend to show that she seems...not opposed to the idea. I wish they would have given us more with her. Though, perhaps that was supposed to be next season. (Damn you, NBC)
I agree; I really wish they had gotten to the point.
I was wondering if it was something similar to the Times Square failed bombing too, until they started talking about teachers being suspended and having to wait days on end at sites until their hearings. Hadn’t even realized that the name of the episode was called “Rubber Room”. There was some news about the rubbers rooms about four or five months back. I think Bloomberg moved to get rid of them as one of the ways to streamline the city economy during the recession. Something along those lines, IIRC.
Hmm, did you notice the interaction between Connie and Lupo? ‘You were a kindergarten teacher?’ and Bernard telling him ‘Don’t go there.’ That and Connie being really amused by his joke as they were fading out makes me think there may have been a plot twist going on there, as Lupo being the father of Connie’s baby. Left me a bit crestfallen about my ship here, the way I was sort of seeing the situation. I like Lupo, but I like the idea of Connie with Mike much better. Mike can be an insensitive putz at times, but I just keep thinking of the episode “Just a girl in the world” and thinking Lupo’s judgment in relationships is even less than stellar. I just don’t see anything between him and Connie, if the writers wanted to go that path, as lasting. Mike, on the other hand, I could see doing everything and anything for her. I’d love to see a well written fanfic about a triangle between Connie, Mike and Lupo. That would be interesting.
I loved Jack chewing out the union lawyer. Union lawyers being worst than terrorists? He can be scarier than a union lawyer any given day.
Yeah, I did think both Jack and Mike’s reactions to Anita announcing that she was engaged as a little forced? Over the top? Well, maybe not Jack’s, because he’s known her for so long, but I definitely thought Mike’s was. I saw it as him still attempting to get back on her good side after he stepped his foot in it in the last episode.
I liked the fact that Wolf decided to bring in Skoda and Rodgers at the end. Skoda seems to have become less wishy washy over the years. I just remember an episode where Schiff groused at him, saying something along the lines of ‘Are you ever completely sure about anything?’ He seemed more on one side of a situation in recent years as opposed to being on the fence like he had been for some time in the beginning and middle years. And I would have really liked to have seen some sort of crossover reference with Rodgers and Criminal Intent, I would have always thought that would have been neat.
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...and yes, while I am all about Connie/Mike, I'm generally good at seeing where other things -could- be read into scenes, but I didn't see it there...
....also, Alana ships Connie/Mike and it's SEEMED like the writer would go with that, if anything....
Who will ever know now...that's what fanfic is for...
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As for laughing at his joke at the end as we faded out, Connie was clearly happy and amused...but then so was Mike, who was right by her side the entire scene. ;)
I admit I am a Connie/Mike shipper, but it also seemed clear to me the writers were going that way. There was a reason that Mike's feelings (and Connie's too, to a lesser extent) were highlighted and hinted at for the past couple years; L&O didn't really focus on the personal (even when they added more of it), so they just didn't have the time or the inclination to build that all up and then twist it another way unnecessarily. They were building for a purpose, i.e., so that if they were going to take it somewhere, they had the framework. From a narrative standpoint, it would have been ridiculously bizarre if they hadn't gone Connie/Mike (if anything), IMO.
Anyway, if this is the end, I have to admit, it gave me some of the closure I desperately wanted. What a nice tribute to Van Buren/S. Epatha Merkerson. I'm still hoping something more can be negotiated, but as finales go, this was better than many.
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And yes, they were both laughing at Lupo's joke. Think I would have rather seen Connie laughing at something Mike said, or being inebriated enough to have an unguarded moment with him. I've seen a lot of feelings on Mike's part toward Connie being overt and specific, especially in "For the Defense", but not really anything on Connie's part. If Connie has expressed anything overt for Mike, please fill me in, because it may have been an episode that I have not seen. I'll admit I've not seen every episode that they've been in. I guess being a shipper, I'd rather not have the writers mess around, just get to the point.
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At most, I could have seen them being ambiguous about the whole thing playing it off as everyone already knew off camera so no one's really discussing it...what fans? You didn't get the memo? Aww, you'll have to wait a while until someone says something.
"Think I would have rather seen Connie laughing at something Mike said, or being inebriated enough to have an unguarded moment with him."
I would have loved to have seen that, too. And, no, there has never been anything overtly expressed on Connie's part. More little things here and there that tend to show that she seems...not opposed to the idea. I wish they would have given us more with her. Though, perhaps that was supposed to be next season. (Damn you, NBC)
I agree; I really wish they had gotten to the point.
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