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amh1988 December 18 2009, 14:50:50 UTC
Oh, I’m certainly not disagreeing with you, but it’s not unheard of for laws to take a step back after a huge leap forward, usually futher than they were before. I have to point out that England, however at least is not governed fundamental ideas of Christianity as much as it was. Or rather, it’s laws were staples of Catholicism until King Henry VIII basically invented the ‘Church of England’ in order to ignore the orders of the Pope and create rules that suited him. (ie: Divorce.)

Then his daughter [Mary Queen of Scot/Bloody Mary] took the throne, and changed everything back. (Burning everyone who had followed her fathers rules at the stake). It wasn’t until Elizabeth, her younger sister, took power, and she reinstated her fathers rules, that things finally settled down.

And now, with the legalisation of ‘gay marriage’ there are very few laws left on the books in Britain that are solely religious. (Adultery is not illegal even though it breaks the terms of a marriage contract, and although you may divorce, the person who committed adultery will not go to jail.)

But yeas, the disproportionate laws of other counties do worry and upset me; and makes me thankful that I live where I do.

On the subject of equality, it’s slightly different. Mostly because a lot of women these days don’t seem to realise that being treated better than men is not equality. To give an example, in work, just last week, a female co-worker complained that in her carpentry class they had had a test on fixing joints. Apparently she lost a few points because: 1) She had been wearing fake nails, 2) She had to ask the teacher to help her tighten a vice.

Now, she pointed out that calling her out on the fake nails was ‘sexist’ because a man doesn’t wear fake nails. Not true. There are at least two other women in the class who did not have the same problem, despite the fact the one of them has relatively long naturally long nails. Fake nails are simply a health hazard when working with power tools.

She also complained about being marked down for not being able to tighten the vice properly. Her excuse was: “I’m a girl, I don’t have the same strength as the men.” Which on a basic level is true enough. Except that she is now seeking special treatment because she is a girl. A basic level of strength is needed for a job like that, but she could simply train herself to be strong enough. The other women in the class had done so, and had no problems. Heck, I don’t doubt that some of the younger/scrawnier men had had to do so as well.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, while other (mostly Eastern) countries still have problems with male-female sexism, the West is starting to develop female-male sexism. And while the East is slowly moving out of this and towards equality, the West is still moving too far in the other direction. We need to balance ourselves before we can claim to be an authority on this matter.

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jl2020 December 19 2009, 02:29:28 UTC
Really? So I'm okay in saying that the British Law has its fundamental ideas based on Protestant? Australia did more or borrowed a lot from British Law - we are a young country~ a little over 200 years~ what I see is we're moving from British Law to American Law and politically speaking too - a gentlemen once remarked to me that's because we want the US to defend ourselves if ever Indonesia wants to take over the country - an idea i have no idea how to comment since it is so fresh - to me at least.

The Henry VIII history right up to the end of the Elizabethian Era is one of my favourites in English history. I watched the BBC documentary for it twice and enjoyed it immensely.

It is absolutely true that adultry is NOT illegal but party that commited the act must suffer economic loss to the other party in marriage. They did after all breach the vow in marriage which must satisfy the following:

1. a man and woman
2. must join voluntarily
3. without the inclusion of another person or persons
4. in matrimony FOR LIFE

As for your case about the lady with fake nails - i stand by your viewpoints. it's utter rubbish what she is complaining. Actually, there are girls within engineering that just simply copy work from her male peers - that i find utterly disgusting - *sighs* if the course does not suit you then choose one that DOES!

Yes, indeed some Eastern and Middle Eastern countries still have problems with male-female sexism. I would like to remark that some areas in the Orient are also developing female-male sexism too. You might find this amusing but ladies in Hong Kong are finding it increasingly difficult to find a partner. The men however there are looking into Mainland China for their 'ideal wife'. Why is this happening? Well:

a) the average income earned from a female is not only coming to par with a male, it has been exceeding it too
b) women these days earn a higher degree in education than man
c) some ladies hold exceptionally high 'criteria':
i) needs the guy to buy her brand names
ii) gifts are necessary in each date etc *rolls eyes*

I can't help but sympathise with the men there to go look for a um, say nice village girl for a wife~ but only in some cases. Hong Kong girls can be not only demanding but also picky but of course that differs with different ppl.

In conclusion, the balance must be sorted out~ the sooner the better!

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