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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:17:38 UTC
I've heard of that manga, but never been able to get hold of it. I did hear, though that it's not part of TB/X/CCD canon - didn't Ohkawa mention it in an interview?

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 00:24:39 UTC
I know Ohkawa mentioned it in an interview but in the interview I know she didn't mention if Hagunsei was part of the continuity or not... *sigh*
I don't know if there's something in the plot that can be considered affecting the canon since it's just 4 episodes... except for the fact we see Tomoe in action...
and maybe in it would have been explained with more details Yuto's idea about his Karma...
I wish I could read it!

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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:26:26 UTC
I don't think it's canon because she said something about Yuuto and Suoh being Nokoru's bodyguards and fighting for his affections? Or maybe my mind is making that up XD;

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 00:35:40 UTC
No, they weren't Nokoru's bodyguards.
They were the Hakkenshi in their past life and now that they had reincarnated they should try and protect the prince (who's also one of them and is named Kazaw Toma) and the princess who's his sister and that hadn't showed up in her reincarnated version...

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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:37:09 UTC
Eh close enough XD; But still doesn't sound like it could fit with Xverse to me...

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 00:44:28 UTC
I honestly don't know if it fits or not...
Just that its characters wander around in the CLAMP Gakuen...
Besides I've to admit that CLAMP had weird ways to connect their universes...
I wouldn't have connected the CLAMP Gakuen boys with X but CLAMP did and technically Angelic Layer too should be connected to the Xverse... and therefore Chobits too... and if xxx Holic is connected to teh Xverse so are Suki dakara suki, Gohou Drug and Magic Knight Rayearth (even if maybe Rayearth is in a parallel universe... and Mokona merely moved through the Xverse)...

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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:46:34 UTC
Ah, but is there any indication that the CCD boys are the CCD boys from CCD and not alternate-universe versions? ^~

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 00:50:20 UTC
CLAMP kept tehmselves deliberately vague... I guess that was their way to assure they could use both options...
They must love this.
TB might end with TB 1999 but also with X...

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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:51:20 UTC
This is why CLAMP makes it heaven to be a fanfic writer ♥

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 00:53:04 UTC
That's true... but it also drives me to insanity when I try to follow canon...

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mefiant April 8 2006, 00:54:03 UTC
Canon = Seishirou/Subaru

:D

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 01:02:32 UTC
Thanks God at least there's something sure int he CLAMP universe... now... if only I could inform those guys they're supposed to be a canon couple and they would do better to stop trying to get themselves killed by their soulmate...

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mefiant April 8 2006, 14:56:41 UTC
Isn't it possible to fit TYO 1999 in between Tokyo Babylon and X/1999. I remember reading somewhere that it actually takes place earlier thatn 1999. you could consider it the moment where subaru stops being interested in revenge and and starts developng his deathwish instead. One reason I can think of why it wouldn't work is either Subaru or Seishiro mentioning in their character files that they hadn't seen each other since the end of the bet, but other than that...

Ruth

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jjblue1 April 8 2006, 18:12:41 UTC
Well, there is, as you mentioned the fact they didn't saw before their meeting in Nakano, plus there's Subaru saying there will be no end of the world in 1999 (since he's a Ten no Ryu he must know there could be the end of the world in 1999. He might be lying but still...).
Also Hokuto showed up as a ghost and persuaded Subaru to let go of his idea of revenge in front of Seishiro. But in X Seishiro thinks Subaru still wants revenge...
I guess that, if you stretch things you can fit TB1999 in the X continuity but it still looks a bit forced to me... I don't think that was what CLAMP was planning...

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