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fadethecat November 28 2012, 15:52:00 UTC
The ghoul thing was where I stopped reading the first time. (Mind, I went back and finished the book, and loved it.) Because...mm ( ... )

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seanan_mcguire November 28 2012, 18:47:46 UTC
The Prices are being deliberately portrayed as having a creepy, inhuman ethical stance, which I can still enjoy reading about in the same way I can enjoy reading about other alien species that have inhuman ethics.

This is, in fact, 100% the point I was aiming for, and you may have a cookie. :)

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fadethecat November 28 2012, 20:04:29 UTC
Yay! Accurate reading cookie!

It's also one of those things that made a lot more sense once I'd read the whole book; and I try very hard not to ding books for not being what I expected based on what I heard secondhand from other readers. ("Very light and fluffy, not dark at all!") Because that's often quite different from what the author meant.

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jimhines November 29 2012, 01:29:59 UTC
Hey, do I get a cookie too? ::Pouts::

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fadethecat November 29 2012, 03:36:08 UTC
...you know, I'm pretty happy with how the book handles it. The way you put it makes it sound so incredibly victim-blaming and "She was asking for it, wearing something like that" that it makes me much more uncomfortable than the book itself did.

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fadethecat November 29 2012, 04:03:36 UTC
I get where Verity is coming from on this. It's a fictional universe, with its own rules.

I am uncomfortable because you equated "Pretty girls going out into the night with strangers die horribly" with "Pets let to run wild around coyotes get eaten by coyotes," as if these were two equivalent things in real life. But they very much are not.

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fadethecat November 29 2012, 04:24:47 UTC
I think it's rational to believe that humans should--in the moral sense, like "People should not be assholes on the internet"--be able to live their lives without being preyed on by other humans. It's a different issue in Verity's universe, because you have sentient beings that are not human preying on humans, and that raises complex questions about what's Moral and Natural--which are not necessarily the same thing ( ... )

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jimhines November 30 2012, 00:51:29 UTC
Hijack away - this is worth discussing.

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looking for trouble sylviamcivers November 29 2012, 20:32:43 UTC
That's a very easy trope to fall into.

Books use it, movies use it, even newspapers cast their news that way. Unfortunately, lawyers and judges and cops all tip over this trope in real life, which makes it night a trope.

It's not right, and I don't agree with it, but it's easy.

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