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Apr 18, 2011 17:20

Hey peeps with some knowledge about cameras! I know I have skilled friends when it comes to taking pics and stuff. Yes, I am looking at you bflyw :D
I want a good, but not way too expensive camera, that can take good photos. Yes, I know that the camera alone doesn't take good photos, but I'm willing to learn. This one site is selling Canon, EOS 550D 18- ( Read more... )

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bflyw April 18 2011, 17:37:01 UTC
It's no easy answer to the question "is it worth the money?"
It really depends on what you want to use the camera for. (I know, I know! Take pictures!)

If you want to sit 4th row at JIB and take photos and doesn't want to spend more than 650Euros, then NO, it's not worth the money. Because as wingfrog said, the lense (18-55 mm) doesn't zoom close enough to take pictures from 4th row. (I don't agree that a 18-55mm is a portrait lense though, but that's another discussion. That has to do with the f-stops)

So basically, if your goal is to be able to zoom in and take better pictures, you need a lense that can zoom that far. If you think normal compact digital cameras, a lense in it's 'not zoomed state' is usually 36mm, which means that a 56 mm is 1,5X zoom (36x1,5 = 56). So if there were a lense called 36-56mm, that would be the same as a 1,5Xdigital zoom on a compact camera. Which means that with the 18-55mm kit lense, you can photograph things that are closer to you than a normal compact camera, but you can just zoom in what equals 1,5 times on a normal compact camera.

So if you want a more zoom, you need to pay money to buy that kind of (tele)lense to put on your camera. Normally, telelenses goes from 70mm and up to 300mm, but then you'll have a gap between 55mm and 70mm where you have no lense, and you would have to change lenses. So a good alternative is to do what I did for JIB this year - to invest in a 'all round lense' a 18 - 250 mm. (250mm usually equals someting around 7x digital zoom)

I already have a 70 - 300mm lense and chose to use that one at the panels when I sat 2nd row all the way to the end. (Mainly because it is more lightstrong. As far as zoom goes, the 250mm would be sufficient enough)
(300 mm = about 8,5 X digital zoom)

(I also have a portrait lense - that is a 55 mm lense, with low f-stop so that the foreground is clear while the background is blurry - and that is the one that sat on the camera when you used it - the one that cannot zoom, because it's a fixed lense).

So question is - do you just want the opirturnity to ZOOM IN, or do you want a DSLR (Digital Single Lense Reflex) camera?

If you want a DSLR camera, you'll have to be willing to invest in lensen as well. The gear I have (Sony Alpha 330 + with the 18-55 kit lense + the 3 extra lenses and a monopod cost about 2000-2500 Euros all together - but the 55mm lense is the most expensive, and if you buy the 18-250, you really don't need the 70-300mm)

EXAMPLE PICTURES:
When I sat first row (stole kreespa's PP02 during a couple of panels), I used my 18-250mm lense, where I could zoom out and capture big parts of the stage even when sitting first row, but I could also zoom close so that I could get close ups of them.
This is from first row - almost max zoom (200mm)


This is from first row, almost minimum zoom (26mm)


Does this make any sense?

But if you just want a camera where you can zoom, but doesn't necesserily need a DSLR camera (where you can change lenses, and control much more in the pictures), I reccomend a super zoom camera instead. Sillie82 used my old superzoom, and she shot from second row, all the way to the end, and got exelent pictures. She used a canon powershot s5IS, which is an old camera, so the new canon powershot cameras are even much better.

So - if the money is an issue, and you don't want to spend more than around 650Euros, I'd say you get much more for your money with a Canon powershot camera than a DSLR camera. But of course, you do get a much better camera if you buy a DSLR camera - but you'll have to fork much more money into it.

I don't know if I made sense at all! Ask if you need more info!

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bflyw April 18 2011, 17:41:10 UTC
Okay. I see that you have ordered already.
When I bought my camera, I did exactely what I did when I bought the camera - I bought the kit + a 70-300mm. LOL The 70-300mm is usually not that expensive, so it's a good lense to buy extra. Unfortunately, I have gotten addicted and continues to buy lenses, and have jumped to more expensive lenses. LOL

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jiiaffa April 18 2011, 17:48:11 UTC
You are an angel! <3 Thank you so much!
Finally someone also explained what those mm thingies are changed in digital zoom!
And really, I blame you for this whole camera thing XD Your camera looked so awesome and you get all those pretty pics that I just had to buy a good camera too! The whole thing cost around 800e but I hope it will pay me back someday.
Now all I need is patience to learn how to use that machine :D
And I already have Canon PowerShot SX120 IS and I've been quite happy with it (except that it ate 10 pairs of alkaline batteries at jibcon) but you know, I want to try something even better, lol.

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bflyw April 18 2011, 18:05:36 UTC
So, you really are like me! First powershot, then DSLR :-) I don't have to tell you I LOVE my camera!

As far as I know, Canon 500D doesn't have IS in the camerahouse, so you should be careful when you buy lenses, that you buy a lense with image stabilator. (it was one of the reasons that I bought the sony instead of the Canon camera, because the sony has image stabilator in the camerahouse, so I don't need it on each and every lense). The salesman miight have tricked me though - but I am really happy with my Sony, so I don't care. LOL
I still use my Powershot to shoot video, because there is no video on the sony camera.

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