This is a cut and paste from another forum. I would link the site since it would be easier instead of cutting and pasting the whole thing here, but I realized they are private forums and people wouldn't be able to get in without signing up. This is just part of a debate between me and a friend I know online, as you can see we don't see eye-to-eye on politics. Please excuse the grammar/spelling mistakes that I just noticed when I was copying this.
Him: ************** me personally i will vote for george bush. my only problem with him is he comes from a political family of career politicians and im not to fond of dynasties or nepotism. i wasnt gonna vote just because of apathy, but that kerry guy really scares me he doesnt stand for anything. well actually he does voice opinions on issues but they change on a day by day basis.
i mean bush was in the national guard for what 5 years? kerry was in vietnam for 4months then he faked an injury (if he didnt why wont he release his records? they made bush do the same) to go home and protest the war and get blowjobs from jane fonda. kerry got divorced and married teresa heinz for her money.
i'd rather have a god fearing gun toting coke snorting low iq having right wing cowboy in the whitehouse, then a UN pandering flip flopping golddigging left wing ultra PC pander to whoever i got to for votes sissy.
Me: **************** Wow, some pics. Sadly thats the best argument I've heard this election year.
Instead of posting some pics how about something that people checking this thread can use to educate themselves. I'm definatly hijacking this thread Pen, sorry, but I won't fly it into a building, I promise.
This is a good read for anyone that got an extra $300 in their pocket and think that George Bush is the best thing since sliced bread. As you can see we are actually losing money in this deal but in a way that isn't obvious to those who don't bother to educate themselves.
Who's benefiting from the tax cut? The rich. The gap between rich and poor in this country is growing. The richest 12,000 families in America have more money than the poorest 20,000,000.
We live in a country of special intrests. Phillip Morris is coming up with public healthcare policy, Exxon is in charge of environmental policy, and Haliburton is coming up with our military policy. These large companies and the petty partisan politics of the Republicans and Democrats have turned the average American off of politics. Most people don't feel like wading through the tons of partisan bullshit to educate themselves on the issue, and Big Company wins.
Bush couldn't lead himself out of a paper bag. After 9/11 there was an outpouring of support and unity, here in the US and from the international community. Bush had an opportunity to forge and solidify alliances and lead the citizens of free nations all over the world into a new age of cooperation and prosperity. Instead, he managed to piss away all of the goodwill.
Remember the whole "Axis of Evil" speech? Before that Iran was making some very positive strides towards democracy. Women were getting more freedoms, the younger generation of Iranians were getting away from religious fanaticism and looking at the US as an example of the direction they wanted to move in. Iran should have been held up as an example of what Arab countries should be striving for, but instead Bush labled them as part of the Axis of Evil and set back the progress in Iran.
Him:
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me personally i will vote for george bush. my only problem with him is he comes from a political family of career politicians and im not to fond of dynasties or nepotism. i wasnt gonna vote just because of apathy, but that kerry guy really scares me he doesnt stand for anything. well actually he does voice opinions on issues but they change on a day by day basis.
i mean bush was in the national guard for what 5 years? kerry was in vietnam for 4months then he faked an injury (if he didnt why wont he release his records? they made bush do the same) to go home and protest the war and get blowjobs from jane fonda. kerry got divorced and married teresa heinz for her money.
i'd rather have a god fearing gun toting coke snorting low iq having right wing cowboy in the whitehouse, then a UN pandering flip flopping golddigging left wing ultra PC pander to whoever i got to for votes sissy.
Me:
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Wow, some pics. Sadly thats the best argument I've heard this election year.
Instead of posting some pics how about something that people checking this thread can use to educate themselves. I'm definatly hijacking this thread Pen, sorry, but I won't fly it into a building, I promise.
Bush's Tax Cut:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/debt0903.pdf
and
http://www.cbpp.org/2-3-04sfp.htm
and
http://www.cbpp.org/12-22-03health-pr.htm
and
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=34039
and
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2002006779_williams17.html
This is a good read for anyone that got an extra $300 in their pocket and think that George Bush is the best thing since sliced bread. As you can see we are actually losing money in this deal but in a way that isn't obvious to those who don't bother to educate themselves.
Who's benefiting from the tax cut? The rich. The gap between rich and poor in this country is growing. The richest 12,000 families in America have more money than the poorest 20,000,000.
We live in a country of special intrests. Phillip Morris is coming up with public healthcare policy, Exxon is in charge of environmental policy, and Haliburton is coming up with our military policy. These large companies and the petty partisan politics of the Republicans and Democrats have turned the average American off of politics. Most people don't feel like wading through the tons of partisan bullshit to educate themselves on the issue, and Big Company wins.
Bush couldn't lead himself out of a paper bag. After 9/11 there was an outpouring of support and unity, here in the US and from the international community. Bush had an opportunity to forge and solidify alliances and lead the citizens of free nations all over the world into a new age of cooperation and prosperity. Instead, he managed to piss away all of the goodwill.
Remember the whole "Axis of Evil" speech? Before that Iran was making some very positive strides towards democracy. Women were getting more freedoms, the younger generation of Iranians were getting away from religious fanaticism and looking at the US as an example of the direction they wanted to move in. Iran should have been held up as an example of what Arab countries should be striving for, but instead Bush labled them as part of the Axis of Evil and set back the progress in Iran.
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