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rzrxtion November 19 2007, 14:57:36 UTC
What caused the government to do that was the heterosexuals suddenly coming down HIV/AIDS

yep

if i remember correctly, straight white america didn't give a sh*t about AIDS until Rock Hudson

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jesus_h_biscuit November 19 2007, 15:17:28 UTC
FTW!

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salenelle November 19 2007, 21:48:29 UTC
I saw the diff when the basketball playa - a playa in his own right - came down with it. All of a sudden, being straight and promiscuous wasn't as "bad-ass" as folks once thought. And it became downright scary.

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jesus_h_biscuit November 19 2007, 13:50:20 UTC
I'm no fan of ACT UP (there were better ways of getting attention and keeping it - though the did reclaim the Stonewall spirit, I'll give them that), because as Justin states they did set us back in many ways - but I definitely think you're on to something here! BY g_e_o_r_g_e, I THINK I'M INSPIRED!!

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jesus_h_biscuit November 19 2007, 13:54:08 UTC
Fair enough, as long as the desperate measures don't amount to aiming the enemy in your crosshairs and then turning the gun around and shooting yourself in the face.

OOH!! OOOOOH! What about "REACT UP"?

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rzrxtion November 19 2007, 17:18:40 UTC
We could argue all day about the communicative value of "screaming in people's face"...

i don't think you HAVE to argue
just answer one simple question which would then lead to an examination of the response...

if a "compassionate" christian conservative started all up in your grill about gay this gay that you're going to hell blah blah whatever, what would your reaction be?

at the very least i'm sure you'd think they were a COMPLETE idiot
at most you'd probably want to pummel them until they didn't exist anymore
but in general i'm guessing you would think something along the lines of "this guy is a total psycho and if he's talking about [insert thing here] then i'm certainly not going to have much if ANYTHING to do with [insert thing here]"
i think that's a normal reaction
i think that's how most gay folks react to the zealots

now, i don't want to put words in xtex's mouth, but what i'm getting from his response is ( ... )

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rzrxtion November 19 2007, 18:05:03 UTC
I think we should demand that churches that use their pulpits and organizations to promote ANY policy - including anything anti-gay - have their tax exempt status revoked

*points excitedly*

yesyesyes
i am SO there
*actually, i've been saying that for years*

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bix02138 November 21 2007, 16:43:23 UTC
uh... screaming and getting in folks' faces was precisely what gandhi and king did, to notable success.

act up taught america that to be a fag was not to be a victim.

did i approve of all their actions (if you can make a collective claim about a completely decentralized group)? no. did they do more good than harm? absolutely.

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