why can't life be more like St. Elmo's Fire

Feb 12, 2003 21:03

Talked to Kevin about Bryn Mawr and grad school stuff. He suggested other schools to look into as well. I think I want to go to Columbia. He told me the types of things that I should research. I get the distinct feeling that alot of academic types look down on Temple for some reason like its a fast food ghetto school or something. Its been ( Read more... )

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anok February 12 2003, 19:13:34 UTC
sadly, people are impressed by Moore.
its a private school first of all.
its all women.
and its a BFA granting institution meaning that you will have better insight into process that
people who just go for a BA.
knock it now but when you get out, flaunt it.

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Re: jenny_fur February 12 2003, 19:45:18 UTC
ahhh. I've always wondered about that. really, impressed by Moore? I guess you have to NOT go there to be impressed by it. Good to know.

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rapier1 February 12 2003, 19:18:14 UTC
Go for Columbia. My grandfather and uncle got their masters from there (undergrad as well in my uncle's case). Its a damn fine school.

Also, don't run away from home and join the circus... run away from home and join an outlaw biker gang!

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Re: jenny_fur February 12 2003, 19:47:17 UTC
Hell's Grannies here I come!!!!

I'd have to commute from Phila to NYC for classes though. Not that I'd mind being in NYC. I like it there. It could get $$$$$ though. Plus Rosalind Krauss is a prof. there and she is HUGE when it comes to modernist theory and all of that jazz.

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cyberthorn February 13 2003, 15:58:01 UTC
Be aware that this can quickly become a drag. I actually did this specific commute (for work) to Columbia from Upper Darby for a while (with the ocassional sidetrip to the UN) and it eventually became wearing. And this was using Amtrak and driving to/from 30th St. OTOH, I did spend 8+ hours per day up there each day, so it might not be comparable. I reached the point where I ended up staying at a relatively nearby hotel, since it was about the same price as the commute.

I wouldn't mind doing it again, short term (or for incredible pay), but I don't know how well I'd deal with it for several years.

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Re: jenny_fur February 13 2003, 17:58:17 UTC
yah i am aware of that. I don't think I would need to pull a 40 hours week in NYC, but I would be spending a significant amount of time there and on the train. Sadly, I have been spoiled by the Metroliner/Acela trains. They are nice when your work pays for them, but not really worth the $180 round trip

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maskm February 12 2003, 20:07:02 UTC

Academics are about the snobbiest group out there.

Half the time, I think it's just so people can feel good about their own degrees. It's hard for them to say "Ooo, let's take that person from Temple! Their education was just as good as my Harvard one!" since they need to feel that their Harvard education WAS better.

I also think that in the private sector you can get experience to counterweigh a school more easily and quicker than in academics. In academics, the school stays with you longer. And schools want to be able to go "Look, we have 25 profs from Ivy Leagues!"

Sad business really.

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stregapez February 12 2003, 20:29:02 UTC
I've been thinking about graduate school too. The thing is, most universities around Philly don't care about Asian/Buddhist art; too much traditional art history education, if you ask me. I don't know about NYC, I've already been to school there and don't want to do it again. Someone suggested I go to Penn and formulate my own master's program. I guess I could do that. It's something to think about. I go to Temple, and I think it's a really damn good school, and I've been to two others. I've had the most satisfying experience there, thus far.

I used to be in a BFA program and it made me realise art school is utter poop. Just my opinion.

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Re: jenny_fur February 12 2003, 21:06:41 UTC
I think Penn may have an Asian studies curriculum. I think COlumbia has one, possibly NYU.

formulating your own masters program can be fun and beneficial if you are doing something off the beaten track. although if your focus is too narrow you might end up with a problem an acquaintance of mine had - she dropped her masters program because basically she was going to have to wait for someone to die in order to get a teaching position.

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Re: stregapez February 12 2003, 22:09:49 UTC
Yeah, Penn has an Asian Studies depo, so does Temple. But neither specializes in Eastern Art so I am fooked.

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