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Nov 05, 2012 19:04

Happy Guy Fawkes Day!!! I hope everyone is watching V for Vendetta tonight...

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zaphod_groupie November 6 2012, 02:03:06 UTC
...you do realize celebrating bonfire night by watching V for Vendetta is like celebrating Easter by watching a film called "Pontius Pilate is awesome!!". Srsly. Dude was a failed terrorist.

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jen_chan13 November 6 2012, 14:15:41 UTC
yeah, but the movie is so awesome! how many other holidays have kick-ass movies likes V for Vendetta?

also, dude may have been a terrorist, but that doesn't mean the ideals of freedom, liberty, justice, etc are bad ideals. the movie makes a good point. and hey, it's already a holiday, so....

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zaphod_groupie November 6 2012, 14:37:24 UTC
In fairness, most holidays get movies : P

And I agree that freedom, liberty and justice are all great ideals....which are all, in my opinion, completely at odds with religiously justified assassination attempts. The movie V for Vendetta is, in a vacuum, not bad, but it so wildly diverges from the graphic novel and has no basis in reality that I kinda hate that it makes everyone go "yay Guy Fawkes!!". The character V is not and should not be mistaken for Guy Fawkes.. Full stop. Bonfire night is about celebrating the failure of a treasonous attempt on the lives of King James and parliament, not celebrating alliteration and civil disobedience.

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jen_chan13 November 6 2012, 15:09:39 UTC
okay, you make some good points there, i don't personally disagree with anything you said.

but i'm being waaaay more shallow about this. :D

idk about the novel, but i think the movie has a good message about standing up for the ideals that our governments profess to serve, and about our rights and freedoms as citizens, and i would enjoy watching it any day of the year. the only reason i particularly enjoy watching it on Nov 5th is because the movie itself makes a big deal out of that day. i know the holiday is about burning guy fawkes in effigy etc etc, and i'm not confusing him with a national hero. i'm not condoning terrorism or assassinations or (god forbid) the blowing up of national monuments or really awesome buildings. i'm not saying either guy fawkes or v are people we should emulate. i'm just saying it's a kick-ass movie with a good underlying philosophical message. regardless of the original context of the holiday, i really just like the symmetry of watching it on Guy Fawkes Night.

that is all.

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zaphod_groupie November 6 2012, 16:11:24 UTC
Yeah, you're intelligent enough for it to not be a problem, it's the rest of the population I'm worried about : P

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