The Borland Museum(s)

Sep 16, 2006 10:51


Although I heard about it years ago, I never went to the Borland Museum in part because I had my own. I've never been able to part with any of my Borland software (of which I have owned most over the years) and it's all still there in a box somewhere, even bizarre things like the Sprint word ( Read more... )

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broken promises anonymous September 16 2006, 17:16:36 UTC
While it's nice to have the Borland Museum, I met with David I several years ago and hand carried to him a copy of TP 2.01, which was to have been put on the museum. As you note, it is not there ( ... )

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Re: broken promises jeff_duntemann September 16 2006, 17:55:46 UTC
Sprint was bizarre mostly in terms of what went on behind the scenes; it worked well and mostly got conked when everybody moved to Win95 almost overnight and Word for Windows came into its own. Until Coriolis standardized on Word, I used Word Perfect 4.2 under DOS, and it bore a lot of resemblance to Sprint without the fully programmable undercarriage that came in from Mark of the Unicorn.

Now what I'm casting about for is a simple and freely downloadable Pascal compiler/interpreter that works in a Windows window. I'm going to look around in the Pascal FOSS world this afternoon and see if anybody has anything. The transition from Windows to text mode in a DOS box is abrupt and ugly, by young people's standards. (You and I feel differently, but you and I are...old.)

Finally, I need to be honest here: I did very little of the TP4 manual. Most of the work was done by Bruce Webster, and he did a very good job indeed. I might have contributed more but while it was coming together I was on staff creating Turbo Technix.

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Re: broken promises anonymous September 16 2006, 18:15:39 UTC
Then a hat-tip to Bruce Webster, but at the same time, I thought Turbo Technix was great, and the best marketing Borland ever did.

My feelings about Word (Im)Perfect won't bear repeating in a public forum. A mild summary would be to declare it an unmitigated piece of excrement.

What was done by Mark of the Unicorn was so far better than contemporary tools, that it was truly remarkable.

Yes, you and I are old. Old enough to have read much by Tony Hoare, Nicklaus Wirth, and others responsible for reasoning out so much of what is today taken for granted. Old is also a prerequisite for venerable, lest you forget. ;)

If you cannot find the Pascal item you wish for, why not avail yourself of Jack Crenshaw's series on building a compiler, and roll your own? Yes, I know, there are only so many hours in a day, but still...

Bill Meyer

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Re: broken promises jeff_duntemann September 16 2006, 18:49:50 UTC
Turbo Technix was great fun to do, and we had a spectacular team working on it. That was the best job I ever had working for somebody else.

Just now I downloaded iaa-Pascal from SourceForge:

http://iaa-pascal.sourceforge.net/en/index.php

It's a Pascal interpreter intended for educational use, running in a Windows window and written in Delphi as a one-piece Win32 executable. Perfect...except that it's localized to Polish. I have a lot of Polish in my ancestry, but the language doesn't come with the genes, but from what I can tell it's just the thing.

I'll keep looking, but this is pretty much what I have in mind.

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Re: broken promises anonymous September 16 2006, 22:20:06 UTC
Remember Alice? I seem to recall that it's now downloadable. If you missed it, it was a ca. 1985 thing that gave a Pascal environment, and tried to provide something akin to a lookup for coding, as I recall.

In fact, a short google on "Alice pascal" turned up this: http://www.templetons.com/brad/alice.html

What do you think? PC and Atari(!) versions are now free, and source (for Linux) can be had.

If nothing else, it's an interesting artifact, but it was built for teaching coding.

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Re: broken promises anonymous September 16 2006, 22:23:33 UTC
FYI, I have found that any 3.5" disk that is more than 6-7 years old is potentially a head-clogger. My theory is that something in the media renders it more hygroscopic than the older 5.25" stuff, which is still mostly readable -- albeit on an older motherboard.

I have no science to back up my guess, but given that I spent 10 years in Ben Lomond, where moisture is one of life's few constants....

Bill Meyer

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