AoS s6 trailer thoughts
Alright, so I need to talk about this Agents of SHIELD s6 trailer.
First, to establish, my mind is still locked on Agents of SHIELD from last season. I’ve come up with so many monster fanfic ideas, tried to write several of them but in spite of writing thousands of words nothing was really working out. I’m trying to start doing AoS for tori_reviews so I’ll be partly done by the time the MCU gets going again, especially by AoS s6. This is still very much where my fandom headspace is; and then they dropped a trailer on me.
Secondly, I think it’s too early for a trailer. We’re still months away from s6 starting; all they really should have given us so far is a premier date and maybe a few flashes, some of which are from last season, some might be new. They still haven’t given us a premier date, it’s just ‘summer,’ the internet still has July listed which is minimum five months away. Even if that’s wrong and the premier really happens at say the end of May, right around taking a full year away, we’re still four months out. At that level is where a premier date and very brief teaser would have been appropriate; even at four months a ploty teaser is too much. This teaser should have come out about three months max from the first episode. And generally speaking the end of April/beginning of May does not count as summer. I do think they would be fools to wait too long after End Game though, so we’ll eventually find out what they mean by summer.
Thirdly, I feel like they at least had to wait on this trailer until the Far From Home trailer dropped. That way it was at least the big Marvel folks who open the window on life going on after End Game. Both FFH and this seem not to be too troubled by the effects of the Snap; there may be some effects, but we’re not setting this in the time when the world was wiped out or anything, it will be put back together and the character dealing with their various other traumas instead of trying to get Thanos.
Come to think of it, I never really put together my thoughts on the FFH trailer. It looks fine; I do spend more time trying to read between the lines on how likely it is that Tony is dead vs. retired. Sure, I like Peter and as sure I’ll enjoy seeing where his story goes; but Tony is still my favorite.
The flip side of that is that this trailer has an awful lot of Coulson for him being clearly declared dead. I suspect part of the earliness of this trailer is so they can start letting Clark Gregg be involved in the promotion of it; maybe so that if he’s doing any promotion for Captain Marvel he can also promote the next season of AoS.
In story, I feel like having a holo-Coulson around is probably a bad idea and just going to mess with people’s heads; he’s practically literally a ghost at that point, and one that lets people not accept that he’s gone. That said, there are plenty of ways this could be used to make me cry, and I’m okay with that, so I’ll see how it goes. Plus if it somehow does contain an imprint of Colson’s personality somehow (and I can see him and Fitz putting that together once Coulson revealed he was dying), maybe it’s also part of restoring our Coulson down the line.
Moreover, I can definitely see this being used to make May cry, and if you’ve been paying attention you can probably guess how I’m down for seeing her fall apart over losing him (I love this ship, and I love angst, so I’m down for angst for this ship; though I do prefer my angst to be in service of a happy ending). What little we get between her and Mack sounds like it’s the first time she’s been around the team since Coulson’s death, so they could also have it be the first time she encounters holo-Coulson which could certainly contain a message for May if nothing else, and would allow us to get the goodbye scene, and the him saying I love you that we didn’t get in s5. Also the lines make a lot of sense if the team has already encountered bizarro-Coulson by that point and they go to May because they really need to know if there’s any chance it’s really him; for her to say that she was there until the end so she knows he’s gone.
But, just to show how much my mind went spinning over a line; when May say’s “we got more than we thought” I know it probably just means they had more time than they thought. That instead of a few days or a couple weeks he held on for a 2-3 months, just enough time to start thinking that maybe the fresh air, lack of stress, and being in love was restoring some of his health; only for him to still die in the end as expected. But something about the phrasing of getting more than they thought makes my brain have to consider than May could have gotten pregnant. Unrealistic, yes; but a lot of things in s5 made me think that becoming a mom is still a very natural part of May’s arc, even if we would need some explanation.
It’s also possible that she knows what’s up with bizzaro-Coulson; that the something more they got was someone who could save him but at a cost of him having to go on this mission. Maybe his memory is wiped or maybe he has to fake it, maybe there is a chance that it’s really him. Maybe they’re going to fully Winter Soldier this shit (would Phil be happy or sad that he’s Bucky in this scenario? Come to think of it, he’d probably be happy to let May be Cap), and have it be him and there is a potential to save him, but until then he’s not someone you want to fight.
Is he the s6 or at least s6a big bad or is him showing up the catalyst that gets the team back together to find and fix him and what leads them to the real big bad? Also, we don’t know how long after s5 this season is set; obviously a lot of elements (both likely and unlikely ones) will be different if it’s a couple months or a year and a half.
Mack still seems to be struggling with the weight of command, but SHIELD seems to have grown quite a bit. They’re already showing us Jemma with the space pod so we may be bypassing some of the search for Fitz; but they also show Enoch with them with no Fitz in the shot, so it may be more complicated. There’s a lot of action involving various characters without a lot that I pick up on what’s going on. Daisy seems kind of like the only non-traumatized person in the trailer; I’m sure she has her own issues, but even the brief bits of Yoyo remind us that she’s not in a super great place either.
Also, I still hate the Lighthouse set. The trailer was not encouraging on that front.
Mainly, now I have even more fic ideas that probably won’t get written. For that, this trailer is even more frustrating than it should have been.
And you know what; the text inserts only says Agent Coulson is dead. But if he’s not acting as an agent anymore maybe Phil Coulson is still out there kicking...
First, to establish, my mind is still locked on Agents of SHIELD from last season. I’ve come up with so many monster fanfic ideas, tried to write several of them but in spite of writing thousands of words nothing was really working out. I’m trying to start doing AoS for tori_reviews so I’ll be partly done by the time the MCU gets going again, especially by AoS s6. This is still very much where my fandom headspace is; and then they dropped a trailer on me.
Secondly, I think it’s too early for a trailer. We’re still months away from s6 starting; all they really should have given us so far is a premier date and maybe a few flashes, some of which are from last season, some might be new. They still haven’t given us a premier date, it’s just ‘summer,’ the internet still has July listed which is minimum five months away. Even if that’s wrong and the premier really happens at say the end of May, right around taking a full year away, we’re still four months out. At that level is where a premier date and very brief teaser would have been appropriate; even at four months a ploty teaser is too much. This teaser should have come out about three months max from the first episode. And generally speaking the end of April/beginning of May does not count as summer. I do think they would be fools to wait too long after End Game though, so we’ll eventually find out what they mean by summer.
Thirdly, I feel like they at least had to wait on this trailer until the Far From Home trailer dropped. That way it was at least the big Marvel folks who open the window on life going on after End Game. Both FFH and this seem not to be too troubled by the effects of the Snap; there may be some effects, but we’re not setting this in the time when the world was wiped out or anything, it will be put back together and the character dealing with their various other traumas instead of trying to get Thanos.
Come to think of it, I never really put together my thoughts on the FFH trailer. It looks fine; I do spend more time trying to read between the lines on how likely it is that Tony is dead vs. retired. Sure, I like Peter and as sure I’ll enjoy seeing where his story goes; but Tony is still my favorite.
The flip side of that is that this trailer has an awful lot of Coulson for him being clearly declared dead. I suspect part of the earliness of this trailer is so they can start letting Clark Gregg be involved in the promotion of it; maybe so that if he’s doing any promotion for Captain Marvel he can also promote the next season of AoS.
In story, I feel like having a holo-Coulson around is probably a bad idea and just going to mess with people’s heads; he’s practically literally a ghost at that point, and one that lets people not accept that he’s gone. That said, there are plenty of ways this could be used to make me cry, and I’m okay with that, so I’ll see how it goes. Plus if it somehow does contain an imprint of Colson’s personality somehow (and I can see him and Fitz putting that together once Coulson revealed he was dying), maybe it’s also part of restoring our Coulson down the line.
Moreover, I can definitely see this being used to make May cry, and if you’ve been paying attention you can probably guess how I’m down for seeing her fall apart over losing him (I love this ship, and I love angst, so I’m down for angst for this ship; though I do prefer my angst to be in service of a happy ending). What little we get between her and Mack sounds like it’s the first time she’s been around the team since Coulson’s death, so they could also have it be the first time she encounters holo-Coulson which could certainly contain a message for May if nothing else, and would allow us to get the goodbye scene, and the him saying I love you that we didn’t get in s5. Also the lines make a lot of sense if the team has already encountered bizarro-Coulson by that point and they go to May because they really need to know if there’s any chance it’s really him; for her to say that she was there until the end so she knows he’s gone.
But, just to show how much my mind went spinning over a line; when May say’s “we got more than we thought” I know it probably just means they had more time than they thought. That instead of a few days or a couple weeks he held on for a 2-3 months, just enough time to start thinking that maybe the fresh air, lack of stress, and being in love was restoring some of his health; only for him to still die in the end as expected. But something about the phrasing of getting more than they thought makes my brain have to consider than May could have gotten pregnant. Unrealistic, yes; but a lot of things in s5 made me think that becoming a mom is still a very natural part of May’s arc, even if we would need some explanation.
It’s also possible that she knows what’s up with bizzaro-Coulson; that the something more they got was someone who could save him but at a cost of him having to go on this mission. Maybe his memory is wiped or maybe he has to fake it, maybe there is a chance that it’s really him. Maybe they’re going to fully Winter Soldier this shit (would Phil be happy or sad that he’s Bucky in this scenario? Come to think of it, he’d probably be happy to let May be Cap), and have it be him and there is a potential to save him, but until then he’s not someone you want to fight.
Is he the s6 or at least s6a big bad or is him showing up the catalyst that gets the team back together to find and fix him and what leads them to the real big bad? Also, we don’t know how long after s5 this season is set; obviously a lot of elements (both likely and unlikely ones) will be different if it’s a couple months or a year and a half.
Mack still seems to be struggling with the weight of command, but SHIELD seems to have grown quite a bit. They’re already showing us Jemma with the space pod so we may be bypassing some of the search for Fitz; but they also show Enoch with them with no Fitz in the shot, so it may be more complicated. There’s a lot of action involving various characters without a lot that I pick up on what’s going on. Daisy seems kind of like the only non-traumatized person in the trailer; I’m sure she has her own issues, but even the brief bits of Yoyo remind us that she’s not in a super great place either.
Also, I still hate the Lighthouse set. The trailer was not encouraging on that front.
Mainly, now I have even more fic ideas that probably won’t get written. For that, this trailer is even more frustrating than it should have been.
And you know what; the text inserts only says Agent Coulson is dead. But if he’s not acting as an agent anymore maybe Phil Coulson is still out there kicking...