a small meta on The Beast Below, Kill the Moon, and Thin Ice
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aevios:
you know its funny ive seen a lot of posts comparing ‘kill the moon’ and ‘thin ice’ with regards to how the doctor lets companions make decisions, but what I haven’t seen is anything comparing one or both of those two to “the beast below” where the doctor doesn’t even give amy or liz 10 the choice. he gets mad at amy for trying to keep it from him, and then takes it upon himself to make the decision for them. if amy hadn’t stopped him and freed the star whale, he would have made the 100% wrong decision.
I feel like then he learns something, and thats eventually leads to his actions in kill the moon, which is a pretty similar scenario. hes like ‘okay well i fucked this up last time, and should have let my human companion make the choice. lets not do this again, ill let them decide’ but instead of just allowing clara to make the decision, he basically forces her to make a decision she was not fully ready to make. and in trying not to interfere, he steps too far back and leaves her without guidance or emotional support.
Then later on in thin ice, the doctor and his companion, now bill, are once again stuck with a decision between risking humanities safety, and condemning an innocent alien life. He still calls upon bill to make the final decision, but he stays with her, and although the decision is hers, asks her to consider what humanity is worth if it relies on the suffering of an innocent creature.
I think at this point he still hasnt quite gotten the balance figured out (esp since this was only bills second trip out) but he’s making progress in trying to figure out how to allow humanity to make its own decisions, while also providing support and guidance without being overbearing or making the decision for them.
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aevios:
you know its funny ive seen a lot of posts comparing ‘kill the moon’ and ‘thin ice’ with regards to how the doctor lets companions make decisions, but what I haven’t seen is anything comparing one or both of those two to “the beast below” where the doctor doesn’t even give amy or liz 10 the choice. he gets mad at amy for trying to keep it from him, and then takes it upon himself to make the decision for them. if amy hadn’t stopped him and freed the star whale, he would have made the 100% wrong decision.
I feel like then he learns something, and thats eventually leads to his actions in kill the moon, which is a pretty similar scenario. hes like ‘okay well i fucked this up last time, and should have let my human companion make the choice. lets not do this again, ill let them decide’ but instead of just allowing clara to make the decision, he basically forces her to make a decision she was not fully ready to make. and in trying not to interfere, he steps too far back and leaves her without guidance or emotional support.
Then later on in thin ice, the doctor and his companion, now bill, are once again stuck with a decision between risking humanities safety, and condemning an innocent alien life. He still calls upon bill to make the final decision, but he stays with her, and although the decision is hers, asks her to consider what humanity is worth if it relies on the suffering of an innocent creature.
I think at this point he still hasnt quite gotten the balance figured out (esp since this was only bills second trip out) but he’s making progress in trying to figure out how to allow humanity to make its own decisions, while also providing support and guidance without being overbearing or making the decision for them.
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