Comments | jeannev: Roulette Screentime Totals, and Not Much Good to Say

jeannev

Roulette Screentime Totals, and Not Much Good to Say

Oct 26, 2009 19:24

Well, I'm home from Atlanta. I had internet, so I've kept up to date on what people were saying. I even posted one or two things at K-Site, because sometimes I can't help responding to idiots. But I didn't want to be one of those people who doesn't watch an episode, but yet still goes around posting about it with an opinion, as though they have ( Read more... )

season 9., screentime minutes, routlette, smallville

Comments 34

me_ya_ri October 27 2009, 02:25:51 UTC

You know, I keep reading and writing SV but I stopped watching way, way, way back in S5. I've only seen isolated things since then. And I think I'm happier for it. Of course, I'm a die-hard Clexer so that's probably part of it. *laughs*

I think part of the reason I stopped watching was reactions just like yours to this episode. I too totally embraced the AU concept that Lex Luthor in SV was NOT Clark's ultimate enemy. I've got Lionel cast in that role in my head.

That doesn't change the fact that I get all curious about what they're doing on the show and so I read reviews like these and cherry pick the concepts I like for my stories. ^_~

Hopefully the twisting of what Clark is/should be won't continue too much longer. *sighs for the days when people actually backed him up on moral points on the show*

jeannev October 27 2009, 02:57:11 UTC

Honestly, looking at the show now, it totally supports the POV that Lex is not Clark's ultimate enemy. In fact, compared to the "friends" he has now, Lex was a freaking saint! And you have no idea how weird that is for me to say that. LOL

me_ya_ri October 27 2009, 03:28:16 UTC

The show really has fucked over any hope Clark has of ever having real friends. I know, I know, in comics canon Superman was 'the only Kryptonian' and no one could really understand his pain but for heaven's sake he's always had FRIENDS! People who would kick his butt when he was wrong AND support him when he was right.

And he always had the strong moral sense of right and wrong. That's what defines both Clark Kent and Superman. A lot of people found that strong moral sense annoying--Superman sees things in black and white, no gray at all in many incarnations--but TPTB have rewritten that so completely that Clark as no moral core at all. It sucks, big time.

*grin* The show would be much improved by Lex coming back and pointing out to Clark in his inimitible fashion that he's getting completely screwed by all these so called friends. Not that I'm biased or anything. ;D

jeannev October 27 2009, 03:44:51 UTC

I'm not a Superman aficianado, but I always thought he had real, true-blue friends. But not on SV. At least not anymore. Its tragically sad to me.

TPTB have made Clark very morally malleable to twist and shape him around their supporting characters in whatever way they want.

Heck, if Lex comes back, I am now totally on board with Clark just hand waving stuff away, and being OK with him. Whats one more? LOL

kissme_myfool October 27 2009, 02:37:28 UTC

Just want to give you perspective on my point of view. I love the friends I've made with Smallville and will continue to discuss till I get bored. I will continue to read articles/spoilers/etc just to see if I find a glimmer of hope...one day it might get better (better is subjective).

Also, I don't really comment on the episodes themselves. I don't watch really. Just Chloe scenes for the pretty.

As always, thanks! for the ST totals :)

jeannev October 27 2009, 02:59:08 UTC

You're welcome, and thanks for the perspectives. I certainly understand wanting to continue on with friendships. I don't so much understand the going out of ones way to try and ruin it for other people still watching, and enjoying it. That just doesn't make much sense to me. Sorry.

tasabian October 27 2009, 02:46:06 UTC

I haven't watched the ep. yet but will watch, then read your review tomorrow.

But I can tell by your screen times that this will be a hard sell for me. *pouting Clark icon*

jeannev October 27 2009, 03:01:42 UTC

Yeah, its a Clark-lite. So, never was going to be a favorite. But I liked Noir, and thats a Clark-lite episode really.

For me, its what this episode was about, and how they resolved it. I'll be interested to hear what you think since our perspectives tend to differ (but I love you muchly anyway!).

anonymous October 27 2009, 03:12:24 UTC

Wow V. That's one fantastic review. I just watched the last two episodes over the weekend, sorry I did, and I have to say that I'm about to pack it in with Smallville. I just couldn't sit throught Roulette without rolling my eyes and laughing at everything. This really was an episode that screamed "TW is an executive producer now so he has very little time for acting". If you look at the totals for the season, it's certainly shaping up to be a season where TW will not dominate the screentime. I'm sure there will be other episodes down the pike where other characters will get the focus, much like Oliver got in Roulette ( ... )

jeannev October 27 2009, 03:37:51 UTC

Thanks M. Honestly, I debated whether I would post any review, because this episode just was so ridiculous and underwhelming, and just highlighted so many qualities of this show that I dislike intensely.

I think there's probably a very valid claim in TW not having as much screentime because he'd gotten more into production. I know how thats how it feels to me. And unless the spoilers are wildly misleading, I don't see it changing anytime soon.

I think Clark's story this year is mostly being Lois' love interest. He has other things going on, but thats his A plot. I don't have an objection to a Clois relationship, but I do have an objection to it being Clark's A plot.

Really, what kind of message are TPTB trying to send?

M, I no longer have any clue at all. I just know its not the message I was so hoping the show would send in its 9th, and possibly final, season.

So in an episode that is supposed to redeem this horse's ass, don't you find it laughable that one of his final scenes involves getting blasted with Lois? You ( ... )

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jeannev October 27 2009, 03:41:22 UTC

Hey, it was more then 10m! We should consider ourselves lucky ;)

I was never going to be totally OK with Oliver, but I would've been closer if he had some really meaningful dialogue, and if he had talked to Clark about what he did to him in Doomsday. And also if he'd been redeemed not by some stupid, twisted mindfuck, but because Oliver honestly saw the errors of his ways, and choose a different path.

There were ways to make this all more palatable. TPTB went for hooky gimmicks, and ripped off a movie, then inserted a scene where 2 snide, smug morally dubious people congratulated each other, and themselves, on what they did. You gotta love our Superman show, right?