Ignorance doesn't get you to Heaven its a free ticket to hell and i am serious
I am a christian, so listen to what i am about to say. I love it the way Christian like to butter everything up ya know, Jesus loves, Just put all you worries in Jesus, Jesus died on the cross for me and you just because he loves us, Jesus is all power and all knowing, blah blah blah blah blah and more lets make the non christian feel and make them
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I can't answer all your questions and neither can chris even if he thinks he can he can't neither can
If you cannot logically answer these basic questions about your personal beliefs, how can you POSSIBLY expect someone like me (who has formulated his/her belief system by means of LOGIC and RATIONALITY), to just give up all of my beliefs and take up yours???
If someone were to come up to me tomorrow and say, "The world is ending in 30 minutes," I would be forced to ask, "Why do you think this?" If that person said, "Well, NASA has just released a statement on it...the sun has exploded...governments worldwide are recommending that we all make our amends and prepare for the unknown," I'd sure as hell take him more seriously than if he just said, "Well, I believe this, and I believe that I'm right, and so should you."
Now please, spare me the fire and brimstone and emotional outbursts and try dealing with me in a way that appeals to my logic and reasoning. If you want me to see things your way, that's the ONLY way to do it.
Take care.
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I told you why i beleive, that is what you asked God has done some many things in my life and probably your life too
But you half to relize that God desires you and wants you is asking for you to come back to him today, he is a logic you may understand JESUS LOVES YOU HE WANTS YOU HE IS CALLING YOU HE IS WANTING AND WILLING TO FORGIVE YOU SO JUST LET HIM JUST TELL GOD YOU ARE SORRY AND INVITE HIM BACK INTO YOUR HEART but it doesn't matter if you understand that or not, the bible is full of misunderstood logics ok but there is one thing that the bible is clear on and that is I(being Jesus) am the way the truth and the life and noone gets to Heaven but through me and that is the bottom line if you keep ignoring God you will go to Hell and regret it for eternity and that is the truth
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You say that your reason for believing everything that you do stems from your claim, "God has done some many things in my life and probably your life too." But the fact that you've arbitrarily assigned this quality/action to God isn't logical in itself. Your beliefs about the hurricane, for example. Was it God's doing? Or is it just the causal flow of the universe? Is there any way for a human to judge? Where is your logic behind seeing things happen in your life and, for no apparent reason, attributing them to "God."
Spinoza noted that one of the biggest mistakes in the way that humans perceive God is attributing human desires/wills/emotions to "him." This is an interesting thought that you might consider.
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My best friend's apendix exploded inside of him he went 3weeks before having it removed, anyone will tell you that you can only live like 3 or 4 days with an exploded apendix,
I have had 4 knee surgeries in the past like 2 or 3 years of my life and my whole right knee's bone structure is plastic and my right leg isn't supposed to grow anymore and i was told that by now i would be wearing a platformed shoe but i am not becuase somehow my God allows my leg to still grow although every scientific logic proves against it,
I believe God sent the hurricane because most of his people are turning against Him, Guess what sweetheart there is no logic to Gods works no one can figure out why God allows some things happen but then stops others
If you are looking for a logic so that you can believe in God good luck finding it because if there is a logic the is humanly coprable good luck finding it,
i wish i could tell you what you want to hear about God, but i don't know what the so called logic you are looking for me to say is, all i can say is that if Jesus were to come back today for the rapture if you were still living the way you are now with out Jesus you would be left behind, and if you were to die today you would go to hell and you can continuely ask me what the logic of God is and what the Logic or hell is and why my logic to care enough about you to let you know on a daily basis that if you don't REPENT you will go to Hell for eternal soul damnation, i don't know what my logic is all i know is that the God that you don't think cares and or doesn't exisist is loveing you right and is makeing me skip one of my classes to sit here and explain to you that the logic to Atheism is that it is a tool of satan is laughing at you right now, just waiting for you to die so he can through you in a burning pit and let demons rip the flesh off your back, and worms eat out your bones, and the worst thing is, is that you can't die once your already dead and soul is tortured for an eternity all for satans enjoyment by being an atheist and not beleiving that there is a God or a Satan, you are serving Satan even though you haven't sold you soul or anything like that if you are not for Jesus you are against Him and that is what satan is doing to you so just do yourself a favor and REPENT REPENT REPENT BEFORE IT IS TO LATE, THERE IS NO LOGIC TO WHAT GOD DOES AND WHY GOD LETS THINGS HAPPEN, SATAN IS LETTING MAKING YOU USE THAT AS A CRUTCH YOU WILL FEEL ALOT BETTER AND UNDERSTAND GOD ALOT BETTER IF YOU JUST REPENT
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With regard to the medical triumphs of your loved ones:
Firstly, why are you so sure that God helped you and your family out here? How do you know that 1) the doctors prepared you for the worst and it really wasn't that bad or 2) that God had nothing to do with it. The human body is a remarkable self-healing powers. Which brings me to my second point..
It is proven that people who pray/have others pray for them are more likely to find the desired outcome. Ex: If you, your whole family, family friends, maybe your parish too were all praying for your sister's health, that's a huge amount of power to back her up in her struggle...but not power in the way that a Christian might see it. The MIND is capable of amazing feats...all linked to reaching another "level" of consciousness and allowing the conscious desires be made known to this deeper level (known as Alpha or even Theta), which, in turn, uses its higher power to influence internal AND external circumstances. If you want to know more, read The Silva Mind Control Method. You say praying/God did it, I say meditation/the mind did it. So I render your personal experience 'not evident' that there is a God at work in your life.
With regard to the logic of God:
You say that we don't understand why God does what he does...and I totally agree...IF God exists in the sense that the Christians think, he's probably up to a much greater plan that any of us can see. But I DON'T think that he would expect us to follow the bible/worship him/do what he says/whatever WITHOUT EVEN MAKING HIMSELF LOGICALLY EVIDENT TO US. That does NOT add up. That would be a really sick and twisted thing, don't you agree?
What I STILL want to know from you:
Why did you immediately attribute these fluctuations of health to some God? What makes you think that there IS a God? If you say the Bible, why did you just read it and day to yourself, "Ok, that's it. That's the truth." If you say faith, I ask you why do you have faith? You just heard about this God dude and believed it for no real reason?
Why do all religious people (regardless of which of the bazillion religions, specifically) think that they know THE Truth? What makes you right and the Hindi or the Pagans wrong?
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