Oct 31, 2005 13:47
What do they all have in common? They're all joke thieves. It's apparently well known among comedians. Denis Leary stole a chunk of Bill Hick's stuff from his Relentless album. Joe Rogan wrote about it in his site and mentioned it in the Opie & Anthony show. Now, I was never a big fan of his, but I have some newfound respect for him. joerogan.net is his site. I'll copy and paste some of the stuff he mentions, but it's best to read about it. Just search for Carlos Mencia, which by the way isn't his real name, and he's not even fucking Mexican. He's half Hondruan, half German and his real name is Ned Holness.
It's commonly known amongst stand ups that Dennis stole a big chunk of Bills act, but amongst the general population it's actually a surprise to a lot of people.
Why? Pretty much because no one that anyone would listen to on the subject stood up and said something about it publicly.
No one defended the integrity of this great art form. They just let a pretender and a hack steal ideas from a great mind. He pretty much got away with it too. He went on to have success in films, and unfortunately, Bill Hicks died of cancer before most people knew who he was or what he had to say.
It really killed me, because I started out a Dennis Leary fan. I remember watching him in Boston, laughing hysterically at his act, thinking it was all his. I was really impressed. For a few months, he was actually my favorite comedian. His jokes on Jim Fix dying while jogging, and how ironic it was that John Lennon was dead, but Barry Manilow continued to pump out albums made me howl.
Then, I saw Hicks, and I really got confused. He was doing the same material, almost word for word that Leary was doing.
I didn't get it. Something was wrong. I was only doing stand up for a few months at the time, so I asked some of the local pros, and they all had the same answer: "Leary is a thief."
I couldn't fucking believe it. How could this be? How could a guy stealing ideas be allowed to perform in these clubs?
The club owners just didn't seem to care. They turned a blind eye, and profited off their hired performer pilfering material from others.
It was a horrible feeling, and it set a terrible precedent.
If he could get away with it, what would stop people from stealing my shit someday?
It turns out nothing and no one would stop them unless I stood up and said something myself.
The latest, and most disgusting joke thief off all is a guy named "Carlos Mencia." The REALLY crazy thing, is that's not even his real name.
He sells himself as being mexican, but the reality is his real name is Ned Holness, and he's actually half German and half Honduran.
The mexican hook is something he did to ingratiate himself with the local Mexican population of LA where he started.
Now, normally I wouldn't dedicate so much time to talk about a piece of shit like "ned" on my website, but this stupid motherfucker talked shit about me on the radio, so it's open season for hacks.
I got a funny email today from one of the guys on the Frank show in Tucson saying that Carlos (aka Ned Holness -or however the fuck you spell it- his real name, aka the phony mexican or carlos menstealia- what other comics call him) was talking shit about me on the radio.
He sent me an audio file, and since I'm bored in a fucking hotel room in DC, I listened to it.
I thought I would share it with you guys because you're the cause of it with the barrage of hate you sent to his website
He talks about how you guys were saying he sounds a lot like me, and how I said "the force was weak with him" which I did, and that was being NICE. What I should have said is that he's a fucking weak minded delusional joke thief. What's really interesting, is that I said what I said about him HERE. Since this is a private forum that the public can't read unless they sign up, that means he signed up, and he's a member here.
Did he respond here?
No. Of course not.
He sits back like a little lurker sponge sucking up ideas for new "jokes" and listening to people talk shit about him, but not having the fucking balls to stand up for himself.
What's really funny, is that he refers to himself in this audio clip as "The punisher." saying that's his nickname.
Listen up, you fat delusional hack, you can't give YOURSELF a fucking nick name, you no friends having douche bag.
I'm THE TERMINATOR!!! There, I have a nick name now!! The only thing you punish is the attention span of anyone in your fucking audience with an IQ above 60.
What's really hysterical, is that he talks about a fictional occurrence at the comedy store I nervously watched him in the back of the room, and where me and a bunch of comics supposedly sat around and talked about him for an hour, and then finally in this fantasy scenario, I admitted that he's really good.
I'm gonna be real clear, stupid; that NEVER fucking happened. the only time any comic, including me watches you, is to see if your stealing material.
Which you DO. ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
See, that's why people SAY you steal. Because it's a fucking fact.
No one is running around saying Chris Rock is a thief, or Dave Chappelle is a thief, or even me for that matter. But HUNDREDS of fucking comics recognize you as a thief. What... they're all jealous? They're jealous of you and not Chris fucking Rock? Oh yeah, I forgot... he's not "The Punisher!!"
I've seen you steal over and over again. I've seen you Steal from Paul Mooney, I've seen you steal from Dave Chappelle, I've seen you steal from old Richard Pryor albums, I've seen you steal from Jeff fucking Foxworthy.
Your mind is weak. Keep talking shit, fat boy. I'll keep exposing you.
Enjoy the audio clip here: Carlos talking shit on the radio.
Now, the REALLY funny thing, is that "Carlos" was claiming that I was watching him onstage, pacing the back of the room, and then reluctantly admitting his greatness to other comics. Well, what's funny about that, is that my trusty camera man actually filmed "Carlos" watching ME onstage from various parts of the room, and then filmed him sucking onstage after him, and me talking about how terrible he was.
He even edited it together with the audio from the radio station in AZ.
Check it out here: Carlos OWNED.
Here's another great article written by someone about the phony cocksucker: Hope in America
If you really love comedy, stop supporting joke thieves.
Here's some more audio, this time of George Lopez from the Stern show yesterday talking about what a thief "Carlos" is:
Lopez on Stern.
It's a lot to read. But, it explains a lot. Rogan wouldn't have even mentioned the fact that Carlos is a joke thief, but Carlos decided to bring it up on the radio, so Joe figures he's fair game.
Boy, it explains a lot about Robin Williams. That guy is such a FAAAAGGOT. That was mentioned on the O&A show, so there's nothing on his site about that. He's got some weird shit on that site. There was a story in the news about a guy who got fucked to death by a horse. Well, Rogan found the video and he put the file up on his site for everyone to download.
The problem is, I like Mencia and Leary. So, I'm kind of torn. But, I've lost a ton of respect for both of them now. That's just fucking bullshit. You can't come up with shit on your own so you steal shit from other comedians.