you are gold and silvaaaah
Hee. I'm watching Croatoan on tv and the license plate of the car that's all bloody that Dean comes across is WTF 476 (? not positive on the numbers). I love how much fun the crew has with license plates. :D Hm, I think I forgot that I kind of liked this episode.
So, everyone has to go check out spn_secretpost! It's ljsecret for our boys. There are fabulous cracktastic ones and heartbreakingly angsty ones and it's the best kind of crack there is. I may be a little addicted to it.
Has anyone else noticed that Dean almost always fires his gun three times? (Of course now that I've said that I'm thinking of times he only fired once, but whatever.) /meaningless observation
There was a discussion at metafandom today ( here) that talked about creators' attitude towards fans and whether or not that affects your individual fandom involvement. Which is something I thought about discussing before but never really got around to it. The post was about the question of what you do if you find out that the creator(s) of your fandom don't like/appreciate fans. Do you stick with the fandom? Does it even matter?
For me, I think I need to know that the feelings go both ways. The creator(s) don't need to lavish fans with praise and goodies, but I do expect some level of appreciation because the fans are what keeps the show going (and yeah, shows with fans get canceled, but shows with no fans don't last more than two or three episodes). I generally don't go actively looking for interviews but if I do come across one that gives that attitude it definitely affects my feelings toward the show.
I stopped watching House because I ran across an interview where one of the writers came out and said "We (the writers) valued House's growth more than pissing off the audience" in regards to the recent fan annoyance with the (incredibly bad, imo) storyline.
I'm not saying creators/writers should do exactly what the fans want, but I do think the audience should be taken into account when deciding on large story arcs (the entire, general audience, not specific ships/groups/etc*). Because the audience is what keeps the show on the air, and whether the writers/creators like it or not, we, as the audience, do have a stake in the characters. We don't have to watch the show, and just because we do watch doesn't mean we have to keep watching.
. . .I'm not sure that I made my point very clear there. It's obviously too late for any kind of coherent thoughts. (Wow, it's only 10:30, I feel old.)
Ok, this post took so long that the first few comments of it aren't really even relevant anymore because the episode is over. I think I had more to say, but I can't remember anymore, so, another fun link PoP! featuring Hugh Grant and the greatest faux-80s music video ever!
*I know that no matter what is done people are never going to be completely satisfied, but that's what we have fanfic for. My point is that the audience shouldn't be ignored or treated as trivial. As much as they (the creators/writers) like to think the show is an art, in Hollywood it's a product, and we're the consumers.
So, everyone has to go check out spn_secretpost! It's ljsecret for our boys. There are fabulous cracktastic ones and heartbreakingly angsty ones and it's the best kind of crack there is. I may be a little addicted to it.
Has anyone else noticed that Dean almost always fires his gun three times? (Of course now that I've said that I'm thinking of times he only fired once, but whatever.) /meaningless observation
There was a discussion at metafandom today ( here) that talked about creators' attitude towards fans and whether or not that affects your individual fandom involvement. Which is something I thought about discussing before but never really got around to it. The post was about the question of what you do if you find out that the creator(s) of your fandom don't like/appreciate fans. Do you stick with the fandom? Does it even matter?
For me, I think I need to know that the feelings go both ways. The creator(s) don't need to lavish fans with praise and goodies, but I do expect some level of appreciation because the fans are what keeps the show going (and yeah, shows with fans get canceled, but shows with no fans don't last more than two or three episodes). I generally don't go actively looking for interviews but if I do come across one that gives that attitude it definitely affects my feelings toward the show.
I stopped watching House because I ran across an interview where one of the writers came out and said "We (the writers) valued House's growth more than pissing off the audience" in regards to the recent fan annoyance with the (incredibly bad, imo) storyline.
I'm not saying creators/writers should do exactly what the fans want, but I do think the audience should be taken into account when deciding on large story arcs (the entire, general audience, not specific ships/groups/etc*). Because the audience is what keeps the show on the air, and whether the writers/creators like it or not, we, as the audience, do have a stake in the characters. We don't have to watch the show, and just because we do watch doesn't mean we have to keep watching.
. . .I'm not sure that I made my point very clear there. It's obviously too late for any kind of coherent thoughts. (Wow, it's only 10:30, I feel old.)
Ok, this post took so long that the first few comments of it aren't really even relevant anymore because the episode is over. I think I had more to say, but I can't remember anymore, so, another fun link PoP! featuring Hugh Grant and the greatest faux-80s music video ever!
*I know that no matter what is done people are never going to be completely satisfied, but that's what we have fanfic for. My point is that the audience shouldn't be ignored or treated as trivial. As much as they (the creators/writers) like to think the show is an art, in Hollywood it's a product, and we're the consumers.