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Aug 24, 2005 13:15


I am sick and tired of hearing about Cindy Sheehan.  I was listening to talk radio in the car this morning and everyone is talking about her.  I heard some interview clips of her's and I cannot believe the ignorance that she spouts.  I agree with the talk show hosts... she is simply a pawn that the liberals and pro-terrorists are using to the max ( Read more... )

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Re: Good point... crankybastard August 27 2005, 06:19:32 UTC
I don't want to keep getting into this, so I'll just leave it as it is here. Except to say that, I still think going into Iraq was not the right thing to do, and was done as much out of an "agenda" as anything Sheehan or others have done--but now we're stuck with it. That's what made me so angry about it in the first place--once we went in, there was no way out, and we can't just pack up and leave now that we're in. If we keep at it, hundreds or even thousands more of our soldiers will be killed, and it'll keep going on for years to come...but if we did back down, then we'd be letting the terrorists drive us away, and that would encourage them to attack us again.

It just seems like a lose/lose situation. I'm not looking forward to hearing about more of our troops being killed every day for the next ten years.

Honestly...it's the politicians who decide to go to war...so maybe they should be out there in the middle of it, themselves. But I guess that's too idealistic...

About the media--yeah, they're no better than buzzards and leeches. That's one of the reasons I go through phases where I try to avoid the news, because I just get sick of it all. If I go looking for news at all, I tend to get it from Fark. At least there's a wide variety and it's interesting--and they don't take one thing and run it into the ground. ;)

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Re: Good point... sevariusjr August 27 2005, 19:24:47 UTC
I hope that what I wrote didn't upset you, and I don't think that I did. But you have absolutely made my point, better than I ever could - an American CAN be critical of the war, and angry as hell about it, BUT at the same time understand that leaving Iraq now would be catastrophic, for the Iraqis if not also for us. No one should view anyone who feels that way as anti-American.

It's not as if I'm not critical myself. I supported the war, I still do, but I'm not happy with how things have gone / are going. Trust me, not all of those of us who are more on the conservative side of politics think that a good job has been done, they aren't. I think that HUGE fuck-ups were made in handling post-war Iraq. I think one of Bush's biggest strengths is also one of his biggest failings, i.e. his loyalty, because I personally think that it's guys like Rumsfeld who really botched things and that they should have been axed a LONG time ago, but they haven't been.

Regardless, I do think that whatever our motivations for the war, what we are doing there is noble. If we can take nothing else out of it, the one glimmer of hope we should hold onto is that we did remove a brutal dictator and are helping the Iraqis to establish some sort of democracy, which is a noble thing, even if the end result may not be what we wanted (Iraq looks more and more like it's going to be a democracy governed heavily by Islamic law).

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Re: Good point... janner August 27 2005, 21:21:55 UTC
*points to SJ* Yeah, that's what I wanted to say *nods* He does a better job at it than I do... maybe that's why he's the lawyer and I'm the jail administrator ;)

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