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(Reply Part The Second, because LJ is being an ass about character count.)
there’s nothing not flawless about Dean’s characterization this year. I haven’t been so madly in love with Dean Winchester since ages. I lovelovelove that after he got out of Purgatory he actually… I don’t want to say grew up, but he’s really coming into himself . . . . same about Sam - he’s not coming into himself because he never was as emotionally stunted as his brother but I like that he knows what he wants and that he has plans for the light at the end of the tunnel and that he might start the men of letters thing again
100% with you on the growth of Dean and contentment of Sam. Over the past half-dozen episodes, Dean -- nesting!Dean, OMG -- has positively bloomed and I utterly love him. Sam is a born researcher and I have no doubt that he'll start up MoL again. Dean will do anything to keep Sam safe, and Sam will do anything to drag Dean into the safe-zone alongside himself. Really, how long has it been since we've had brotherly interaction like this? (I still have issues with the guys blithely murdering the poor souls unfortunate enough to be demon-possessed -- does no one bother with exorcisms any more? -- but that's another story for another day.)
when you think that nothing can get worse with angels then IT GETS WORSE?
I want to believe that it can't get any worse than Naomi, but Show would probably prove me wrong within a couple of episodes. I remain amazed that the angels have the nerve to put down demons. Like the crap they're doing is any better. (It also amuses me that angels have never been what they seemed at first glance, going all the way back to the "angel" in 'Houses of the Holy.' That's got to be intentional on Show's part. In any case, angel business has been untrustworthy since Zachariah and Uriel showed up.)
I really want to see what happens if/when Dean meets Naomi. I don’t see it going down well.
If Show doesn't put those two in a room together, I'm going to be very disappointed indeed. Dean knows her name now. He's resourceful, and he's got both Sam's research mojo and the MoL library in his corner, so I have little doubt that he will find her and there will be a showdown. (Plus, Dean actually took down Zachariah, so my money's on the Winchester half of the equation.) ;)
I love ya, bb, but I just don't see D/C ever going canon. There is friendship there, yes, and there's been some interesting subtext this season, but there are also massive trust issues between those two. That Castiel resisted killing Dean (after having no such qualms about killing Balthazar, his best friend for MILLENNIA) was a point in his favor . . . but then he turns around to say that he doesn't trust Dean with the angel tablet before disappearing with it. (By then he wasn't being controlled by Naomi, so we can't blame her this time.) Making off with the table is not exactly behavior conducive to getting Dean to trust him again, certainly not to the level of trust they had in S4. And there have been a LOT of betrayals since 4.01.
let me have Crowley forever. The end.
THIS. Whatever Crowley is, he's more than a mere demon, and I cannot wait for the big reveal. (Assuming Show doesn't drop the ball, that is.)
Ikr? I love the S&D time we had this year. CHARACTERIZATION DONE WELL! WE STOPPED REHASHING S1 AND S2! DEAN IS NESTING! Dean is thriving! Sam is born to be a MOL! I can't be happier with them. Also ahahahhahaahha YOU'RE SO RIGHT ABOUT THAT, but seems to me like they've stopped giving a shit sometime around S3 =_= did they forget their Latin or what?
... I don't even want to think of what could be worse than Naomi. Like, demons are perfect gentlemen in comparison to these people, at least THEY'RE FUCKING STRAIGHT ABOUT DOING EVIL SHIT and they don't pretend they're right doing it. Like. seriously. What. or at least angels in high places (Gabriel being the exception obviously). Sigh. Can we have Balthazar back so we can have some faith in the species again? ;)
I think Dean is going to go creative lengths to make her suffer. ;) ;) seriously, at least Zachariah hadn't fucked with Cas like THAT XDDD
Mmmhhh. See, I don't buy it 100% either - I mean, I generally don't buy anything I ship going canon because it doesn't, but the subtext this year has been off the fucking charts. Like, if you asked me last season I'd have told you that it was never going to happen, but this year between them actually being friends, Dean actually asking questions before shooting and Cas - well, you said it, he killed Balthazar and HE COULDN'T KILL DEAN... I don't think that if it happens it'd happen this season - there's too much shit they still have to go through, and also if I'm right about Dean being able to close Heaven's gates there's going to be even MORE shit going down. But still, Cas has to be around next season if Misha is a regular, and if he has to be around after what's going down now I think he's going to be either graceless or severely depowered, and at that point... well as stated I'm not sure 100% that they'll go there, but they'd have time/space to fix their trust issues/relationship also because at this point both of them are in a good position to do it, but I think they're doing things so that if they consider it for real and they want to do it, then it's going to work. As stated, the last time I've seen a season of a TV show with the subtext they're having on SPN right now, those two people ended up kissing in a bathtub in the middle of the following season... while I won't bet money on it happening (and definitely not this season) I'd definitely would not be surprised if they went there. If it makes sense.
Well, if Crowley was in Mesopotamia with Naomi centuries ago and Mark Sheppard told someone on Twitter that they should consider Crowley's backstory being bullshit... I vote for fallen angel, but as someone noted in that scene in 8x17 you didn't hear Naomi's wings when she disappeared so I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THE TWO OF THEM ARE THANKS ;)
Hopefully I'll be done by tomorrow WHEN I ACTUALLY HAVE REAL INTERNET ;)
there’s nothing not flawless about Dean’s characterization this year. I haven’t been so madly in love with Dean Winchester since ages. I lovelovelove that after he got out of Purgatory he actually… I don’t want to say grew up, but he’s really coming into himself . . . . same about Sam - he’s not coming into himself because he never was as emotionally stunted as his brother but I like that he knows what he wants and that he has plans for the light at the end of the tunnel and that he might start the men of letters thing again
100% with you on the growth of Dean and contentment of Sam. Over the past half-dozen episodes, Dean -- nesting!Dean, OMG -- has positively bloomed and I utterly love him. Sam is a born researcher and I have no doubt that he'll start up MoL again. Dean will do anything to keep Sam safe, and Sam will do anything to drag Dean into the safe-zone alongside himself. Really, how long has it been since we've had brotherly interaction like this? (I still have issues with the guys blithely murdering the poor souls unfortunate enough to be demon-possessed -- does no one bother with exorcisms any more? -- but that's another story for another day.)
when you think that nothing can get worse with angels then IT GETS WORSE?
I want to believe that it can't get any worse than Naomi, but Show would probably prove me wrong within a couple of episodes. I remain amazed that the angels have the nerve to put down demons. Like the crap they're doing is any better. (It also amuses me that angels have never been what they seemed at first glance, going all the way back to the "angel" in 'Houses of the Holy.' That's got to be intentional on Show's part. In any case, angel business has been untrustworthy since Zachariah and Uriel showed up.)
I really want to see what happens if/when Dean meets Naomi. I don’t see it going down well.
If Show doesn't put those two in a room together, I'm going to be very disappointed indeed. Dean knows her name now. He's resourceful, and he's got both Sam's research mojo and the MoL library in his corner, so I have little doubt that he will find her and there will be a showdown. (Plus, Dean actually took down Zachariah, so my money's on the Winchester half of the equation.) ;)
I love ya, bb, but I just don't see D/C ever going canon. There is friendship there, yes, and there's been some interesting subtext this season, but there are also massive trust issues between those two. That Castiel resisted killing Dean (after having no such qualms about killing Balthazar, his best friend for MILLENNIA) was a point in his favor . . . but then he turns around to say that he doesn't trust Dean with the angel tablet before disappearing with it. (By then he wasn't being controlled by Naomi, so we can't blame her this time.) Making off with the table is not exactly behavior conducive to getting Dean to trust him again, certainly not to the level of trust they had in S4. And there have been a LOT of betrayals since 4.01.
let me have Crowley forever. The end.
THIS. Whatever Crowley is, he's more than a mere demon, and I cannot wait for the big reveal. (Assuming Show doesn't drop the ball, that is.)
Looking forward to reading your 8.17 coda!
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... I don't even want to think of what could be worse than Naomi. Like, demons are perfect gentlemen in comparison to these people, at least THEY'RE FUCKING STRAIGHT ABOUT DOING EVIL SHIT and they don't pretend they're right doing it. Like. seriously. What. or at least angels in high places (Gabriel being the exception obviously). Sigh. Can we have Balthazar back so we can have some faith in the species again? ;)
I think Dean is going to go creative lengths to make her suffer. ;) ;) seriously, at least Zachariah hadn't fucked with Cas like THAT XDDD
Mmmhhh. See, I don't buy it 100% either - I mean, I generally don't buy anything I ship going canon because it doesn't, but the subtext this year has been off the fucking charts. Like, if you asked me last season I'd have told you that it was never going to happen, but this year between them actually being friends, Dean actually asking questions before shooting and Cas - well, you said it, he killed Balthazar and HE COULDN'T KILL DEAN... I don't think that if it happens it'd happen this season - there's too much shit they still have to go through, and also if I'm right about Dean being able to close Heaven's gates there's going to be even MORE shit going down. But still, Cas has to be around next season if Misha is a regular, and if he has to be around after what's going down now I think he's going to be either graceless or severely depowered, and at that point... well as stated I'm not sure 100% that they'll go there, but they'd have time/space to fix their trust issues/relationship also because at this point both of them are in a good position to do it, but I think they're doing things so that if they consider it for real and they want to do it, then it's going to work. As stated, the last time I've seen a season of a TV show with the subtext they're having on SPN right now, those two people ended up kissing in a bathtub in the middle of the following season... while I won't bet money on it happening (and definitely not this season) I'd definitely would not be surprised if they went there. If it makes sense.
Well, if Crowley was in Mesopotamia with Naomi centuries ago and Mark Sheppard told someone on Twitter that they should consider Crowley's backstory being bullshit... I vote for fallen angel, but as someone noted in that scene in 8x17 you didn't hear Naomi's wings when she disappeared so I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THE TWO OF THEM ARE THANKS ;)
Hopefully I'll be done by tomorrow WHEN I ACTUALLY HAVE REAL INTERNET ;)
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