WHICH IS A SHAME BECAUSE okay I didn't really enjoy Dune too much? I enjoyed parts of it but I think I read it too young and also it's like the frickin' Moby Dick of science fiction re: unnecessary information about whaling terraforming. But there were so many things going on around outside Paul's story (like, his mother! and the empire!) that sounded SO COOL and I wanted to hear about them and now the books that are about those things are by...Kevin J. Anderson. Sob.
1) amazing female characters who were moms and priestesses and still formidable and respected (two character types that are almost ALWAYS wussified and spoke down on) 2) maybe the first ever convincingly evil villains. The Harkonnens were really getting down with their bad selves, and I was like "I can appreciate their enthusiasm, here; finally some bad guys who aren't halfassing it!"
and by book #2 a whole asston of this was gone. So w/e! Thanks for boring me, Children of Dune!!
HAHAHA those were the things I liked most about it. I was like "Paul bores me can we talk more about his mom and sister please I want to know what is going on in that hizzouse."
I think you need to separate out Media Tie-Ins into a completely separate (sub) genre, because a lot of them aren't very representative and a lot of people who read them read them exclusively without even dipping their toes into the big pool.
The series issue is a separate one, but again that's hardly restricted to SF/F. I suppose it would be more difficult to have a series in the Romance genre because the target audience would probably get pretty pissed off if they didn't have the payoff of the romance arc in the first novel and then where do you go from there, or Mystery, because something better get solved dammit (although there are plenty of series in the Mystery genre, they just happen to be more "monster of the week" when it comes to the mystery parts of the plots). But, I'd be as likely to go "Where do I start?" and possible even more likely to be confuse if I picked up the wrong book in John Banville's Art quadrilogy first than I was when I started reading McCaffrey's"The Ship Who. . ." novels or Bujold's Vorkosiverse
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thank god it wasn't only me
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and the second one was just
nonsensical
WHICH IS A SHAME BECAUSE okay I didn't really enjoy Dune too much? I enjoyed parts of it but I think I read it too young and also it's like the frickin' Moby Dick of science fiction re: unnecessary information about whaling terraforming. But there were so many things going on around outside Paul's story (like, his mother! and the empire!) that sounded SO COOL and I wanted to hear about them and now the books that are about those things are by...Kevin J. Anderson. Sob.
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1) amazing female characters who were moms and priestesses and still formidable and respected (two character types that are almost ALWAYS wussified and spoke down on)
2) maybe the first ever convincingly evil villains. The Harkonnens were really getting down with their bad selves, and I was like "I can appreciate their enthusiasm, here; finally some bad guys who aren't halfassing it!"
and by book #2 a whole asston of this was gone. So w/e! Thanks for boring me, Children of Dune!!
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The series issue is a separate one, but again that's hardly restricted to SF/F. I suppose it would be more difficult to have a series in the Romance genre because the target audience would probably get pretty pissed off if they didn't have the payoff of the romance arc in the first novel and then where do you go from there, or Mystery, because something better get solved dammit (although there are plenty of series in the Mystery genre, they just happen to be more "monster of the week" when it comes to the mystery parts of the plots). But, I'd be as likely to go "Where do I start?" and possible even more likely to be confuse if I picked up the wrong book in John Banville's Art quadrilogy first than I was when I started reading McCaffrey's"The Ship Who. . ." novels or Bujold's Vorkosiverse ( ... )
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