"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

[jacquez]

I get the sense that the outpouring[1] of WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING in Laura Hale/partly_bouncy's direction is coming as a surprise to some people.[2

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[madripoor_rose]

Was she ever on SA/in Sentinel fandom? Because I swear some of the pseuds sound familiar.

[jacquez]

She may have been; I don't recall exactly. FCA-L had a lot of Sentinel discussion before P-L formed, so some things of that era blend together for me.

[saffronhouse]

Oh, yes, she dates back to TS days; was very active on Prospect-L

Could people be confusing

[alyburns]

Lucy Hale with Laura Hale?

[cereta]

Kick them to the door. Hard. Tell people about them. Document what they do. Don't let them participate in your community, your mailing list, your journal. Yes -- even if they haven't done anything problematic in your space yet. Because they will. They will use fear and intimidation[3]; they will use sockpuppets; they will use lies. They will push good people until the good people are the ones who step over the lines, in rage and frustration, and then play innocent.

That. I've been composing a post to that effect in my head all afternoon, and you have inspired me.

[jacquez]

Hoorah inspiration!

[starherd]

I'm a "psycho" for warning about my one of these - but I'd rather be her villain than her kleenex "friend". :-D
Mind you, I'm pretty sure that she's just an idiot, uncareful, self-centered kid with Issues rather than genuinely malicious, but that doesn't mean she doesn't get into groups and divide them and hurt people. Not on the scale of this particular scumbag.

Anyway, I applaud you. And offer hugs. Because this is creepy as all get-out.

[jacquez]

It seriously is.

I'm sure this post will get me labeled a psycho bitch with a grudge in some circles. Well, no one wants to be thought of that way -- but if people think that, there is nothing I can do besides keep on keepin' on. If the only evidence they have of me being a psycho bitch is that I don't like scam artists and puppeteers...well, that's their problem.

[mecurtin]

Yeah, what I think this definitely proves is that shunning *does not work*. Or it only works on some people, anyway.

I still dither about how bad an idea "ignore her and she'll go away" is, because people so often *do* -- go away, I mean.

[jacquez]

Shunning can only work when you communicate the shunning and its reasons.

That's difficult to do on the internet -- even if we weren't reluctant to do so. But if we can get over the reluctance, it makes it easier.

Of course, the skinsacks always have recourse to sockpuppetry. They've got us there.

[tzikeh]

She's not going away.

And I don't think this proves that shunning does not work, because we haven't really started shunning yet. We've just been passive.

[ratcreature]

Wow. WTF? There must be more delusions going on than I thought if she expects someone to pay her something for her junk wiki. That seems about as likely as me getting really rich through answering one of the spam emails I constantly get that tell me I could earn hundreds of euro a week...

[mamadeb]

Tritorella is my own *special* fan, right? The one who wanted me stoned?

[jacquez]

Yes, that one. I think that was the offense that finally got her banned from CritEdge, wasn't it? (Along with her "best friend" who was clearly a sock.)

[mamadeb]

I think so. From my own point of view, banning was a reasonable thing. (jonbaker wanted sterner and more legal recourse, but I talked him out of it.)