Little thing. I see that a few are giving the "nay" to draft submissions. Gotta disagree with that, as . . .
If a person is working alone on fic/art, then sure, no draft is needed, because if they lose interest and drop out, they won't impact anyone else.
BUT . . . if an author plans on having their piece claimed by an artist (as most Bangs do), then hell yeah, there should be a draft submission requirement, one placed upon both writer and artist to ensure that the artist doesn't get stuck with a writer who loses interest mid-stream, resulting in no story and nothing to illustrate, and the writer doesn't get stuck with a disappearing artist and no art for their fic. If that makes any sense. ;)
(Why, yes I HAVE suffered through non-communicative, disappearing!authors before, and I'm sure more than a few writers have met the same fate.)
If you're talking about author/artist collaborations, I have to agree with this from a writer's POV. I'm something of a procrastinator (read: massive procrastinator) and making me submit a rough draft a) forces me to commit to the challenge and b) ensures that I won't am considerably less likely to flake out on my artist. And perhaps everybody else doesn't need this kind of impetus, but I think challenges tend to be more successful/have a greater completion rate when the onus is placed on authors (and artists) early on in the process.
This is all really great feedback. I've never hosted anything like this, but I've been both an artist and a writer on them. I guess my only quibble with drafts is that I find I write the draft in a rush to make the deadline, but then go back and almost have to rewrite it. I'd rather pace myself more evenly. Maybe it's a matter of a draft that's as complete as possible, but not necessarily an ending yet. (that's the part I find I rush for the draft) What do you both think of that? But I agree the artist shouldn't be face with a disappearing writer after they do all their hard work.
As far as my experience on BB is kind of nonexistent, it's hard for me to give advice on how to do things. One thing, though: I'm primarily a writer but I do like to make art to and I think I would like for it to be permitted that a writer could offer to do art for another story than it's own. So far, it's not permitted on the other BB I looked upon so maybe there's a reason.
ALSO: I'm so in!!!!!! Writing lots of angst right now. Need this in my life!
I think they don't allow writing and art because they think the person will be overwhelmed. But I think that can be allowed. I've done both writing and pinch hitting and as long as the deadlines aren't too tight it was fine. So I think that's allowable.
I voted and then I thought... it doesn't really matter what the outcome will be, because I will participate no matter what. I am Lin and I am a Crack addict.
Hi Lin, * waves * what step are you on? Admitting your problem to your friends? I see you've got being honest with yourself about your problem covered LOL
Hey any naming ideas? I'm kind of loving cassiopeia7's "Fractured Fairy Tales"
I think my friends have known for a looong time, there's something wrong with me and my humor :) I love the Fractured Fairy Tales name too.
Hmmm, any further ideas? Possible words to be included in the name: Fantasy, Gay, Story time, Fairies, Magic, Story book I like to use: poemhunter dot com to generate titles... A story true at times, A world of fantasy, Dear Mr. Fantasy, Feeding the fairies, Jack the Stripper (lol), Once upon a crack story
Nope, I'll stop now. Fractured Fairy Tales is the best :)
Oo oo wait: Go The Fuck To Sleep! Please include children's books! I can totally see a Miffy J2 version, or Winnie the Pooh, or Guess how much I love you, or We're going on a bear hunt.
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If a person is working alone on fic/art, then sure, no draft is needed, because if they lose interest and drop out, they won't impact anyone else.
BUT . . . if an author plans on having their piece claimed by an artist (as most Bangs do), then hell yeah, there should be a draft submission requirement, one placed upon both writer and artist to ensure that the artist doesn't get stuck with a writer who loses interest mid-stream, resulting in no story and nothing to illustrate, and the writer doesn't get stuck with a disappearing artist and no art for their fic. If that makes any sense. ;)
(Why, yes I HAVE suffered through non-communicative, disappearing!authors before, and I'm sure more than a few writers have met the same fate.)
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What do you both think of that? But I agree the artist shouldn't be face with a disappearing writer after they do all their hard work.
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I think we all do that. :) Some of the art drafts I've submitted have changed 180º by the time they're finished.
Maybe it's a matter of a draft that's as complete as possible, but not necessarily an ending yet.
That definitely works! :)
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ALSO: I'm so in!!!!!! Writing lots of angst right now. Need this in my life!
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I think they don't allow writing and art because they think the person will be overwhelmed. But I think that can be allowed. I've done both writing and pinch hitting and as long as the deadlines aren't too tight it was fine. So I think that's allowable.
So good talking all this stuff out.
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I am Lin and I am a Crack addict.
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Hey any naming ideas? I'm kind of loving cassiopeia7's
"Fractured Fairy Tales"
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I love the Fractured Fairy Tales name too.
Hmmm, any further ideas?
Possible words to be included in the name: Fantasy, Gay, Story time, Fairies, Magic, Story book
I like to use: poemhunter dot com to generate titles...
A story true at times, A world of fantasy, Dear Mr. Fantasy, Feeding the fairies, Jack the Stripper (lol), Once upon a crack story
Nope, I'll stop now. Fractured Fairy Tales is the best :)
Oo oo wait: Go The Fuck To Sleep!
Please include children's books! I can totally see a Miffy J2 version, or Winnie the Pooh, or Guess how much I love you, or We're going on a bear hunt.
O no, I need this challenge! Quick!
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Oo oo wait: Go The Fuck To Sleep!
Brilliant. You are it. :D
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