like slow-spinning redemption

[ivy_chan]

Alright, so here is the movie review I promised for Iron Man 2, cut for spoileriffic text. I watched Iron Man 2 last Wednesday, so there may be fogginess about some of the details.

Comments

[thegamehiker]

I think the reason they can't include the mutant backlash is because the rights to do X-Men movies aren't with Marvel studios. They can only work with the characters that aren't being bastardized by other studios.

[ivy_chan]

Hmm. Well, that is a good reason for the Iron Man movies not to include it, but it's also a flaw in the comics themselves. I expect there to be more backlash for Spider Man, for instance, but it's not really seen. (Who has the movie rights for those movies, again? *can't recall*)

[thegamehiker]

That's just a problem when you tie so many properties to one universe. It's one reason, in a way, I've preferred TV shows and movies based off comic books. There doesn't seem to be as much obligation to pretend like there are superheroes oozing out of America's every orifice. Spider-Man doesn't seem so special when you realize that there's a mutant manifesting powers practically every day.

Anyway. Marvel Studios has Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, and the rest of the Avengers. Probably any other obscure superheroes they'd want to use.
20th Century Fox did X-Men, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, and Elektra.
Columbia Pictures (or Sony) did Spider-Man and Ghost Rider
New Line Cinema did the Blade movies.

Funny story. Since Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi aren't doing anymore Spider-Man movies, apparently Sony wants to reboot the franchise (already!). Why? Apparently so the rights don't expire from not being used and go back to Marvel.

[ivy_chan]

- That's pretty much exactly why I think X-Men should be separate from the superheroes, otherwise it just looks dumb that the other people with awesome superpowers get all this support when the mutant outbreak is basically...people being born with superpowers.

(Oh, 20th century Fox, you continue to suck.)

- Another Spiderman movie? Will it involve Spiderman being less of a whiny douche? Will Mary Jane actually be likeable?

[thegamehiker]

Yeah. X-Men really should be it's own universe. It's just weird combining it with other ones. At the very least, they could still have crossovers. Just alternate Earths.

(And just think! They were supposed to be bastardizing Deadpool some more too. Awesome?)

-From Wikipedia: The reboot film is scheduled to be released in summer 2012 and will focus on Peter Parker developing his abilities in high school. Sony also confirmed that James Vanderbilt will write the script for the new film and Marc Webb will direct the next Spider-Man film. Entertainment Weekly called Vanderbilt's script "gritty, contemporary" and referenced Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan's reboot of the Batman film series, which also reinvented the tone of the series

Hooray for the Batbandwagon? Supposedly Superman is looking to get the same Nolan-esque treatment.

[ivy_chan]

Ohhhh. Um. Well, I won't get my hopes up, then. Nolan-esque treatment is fine for Batman, but Spiderman and Superman? I'm not so sure.

(Do you think they COULD bastardize Deadpool more?)

[thegamehiker]

Yeah, exactly. Gritty =/= Better.

And I'm sure they could if they really tried.

[ivy_chan]

I guess they could make him a tragic, brooding, romantic figure with no sense of humor- wait, they took his sense of humor when they sewed his mouth shut. Okay, tragic, brooding, romantic figure who can't use swords and instead relies entirely on superpowers. Also, he sparkles in the sunlight.

[thegamehiker]

And as a tease for fans, at one point he'll look at the usual Deadpool outfit and be like, "Nah."

And then go with some kind of trench coat look instead.

[ivy_chan]

A trench coat and swirly mask, like Rorschach! And then Rorschach and Question will come out and file lawsuits. (Or Question will file a lawsuit after a long discussion about conspiracies, Rorschach would just get violent.)

[robina1984]

Actually, the whole Mutant/Human with powers thing worked out a lot better in the original comics. There wasn't the immediate mutant hate. Xavier worked for the government and chatted telepathically with generals and the president. The original basis was the heroes with powers and the mutants were becoming known at the same time. Magento (moron, but I love him) kept emphasizing the "mutant superiority" and stuff, so mutants wound up painted with the "evil" brush. Even Xavier acts as if mutants are "special", since he bothered making the school and training these kids/adults to fight

[lvsinsanity]

Actually, Tony Stark was bought by Disney too, they own all of Marvel (Though I'm thinking Marvel still is on set to help 'keep it true to comics' in some weird screwed up sense)

[thegamehiker]

Yeah. But the rights to use the characters in different medias (movies, TV shows, video games, etc) are distributed to all kinds of different companies. Marvel Studios (the movie company) can only use the properties that haven't been distributed to other movie companies.