i gotta get out of this prison cell, someday i gotta be free

[ivy_chan]

I'm very picky about who I show my writing to. It's an interesting sort of pickiness, really: I've got no problem showing my writing to complete strangers and people on the internet, because there are no emotional repercussions to doing so. I'm fine showing my comedy works to about anyone, because I don't reveal any depth of personality or emotion

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[t3h_toby_chan]

Yay, filling up Ivy's page with off-topic ranting! \o/

I think there's the issue that people think of "art" as "Paintings in a museum" and don't recognize the art inherent in our daily lives, from less obvious commercial examples as logos on products and creative architecture, to more 'frivolous' examples such as the film industry. I think this assumption lends to the 'art is pointless' crowd, when they think only of decorative paintings, as well as the '____ isn't art' crowd, when they fail to understand the artistic processes and merit in things they don't enjoy or understand. I'll bet your 'science-type' boy would not have agreed that the world would be a better place if there were no movies, novels or video games.

I too had a rather muteness inducing debate with a boy back in high school, who from what I remember was a staunch pro-war conservative and a huge Star Wars fan. (I recall him asking "Oh god, you're not one of those people who thinks everyone is equal, are you?") He asked me once to give him a reason that the nation of France was not completely worthless. I said that they contributed to the art world and he said "Art? Art is pointless. It serves no purpose." It was perhaps the first time I'd heard that argument (besides rhetorically from disillusioned artists. Lol, art) and I found I couldn't say much. Then again, there wasn't much I could say to him without him chuckling and giving me the 'Oh, aren't you such a cute little stupid liberal' look. I really should have just ended our debates with "Oh yeah? Well you have a mullet!", seeing as that's more or less how productive they were. >_>

Comic books seem to still have it rough outside of their spinoff movies and their subcultures. Even though it's changing a bit so that comic books (or more accurately comic book movies and merchandise) are becoming popular, they're still seen as mostly-CG action movies that a parent can bring their 7 year old to (coz it's only PG-13 for VIOLENCE and that's otay!) and not be completely bored by. There was a stir about parents bringing/not bringing their kids to The Dark Knight, because it was dark and therefore "Not just a comic book movie", and that it was more dark and adult, unlike the comics. Of course the fans were piping in- "Um, hello? Not all Batman comics were silver age kitschy crap. They were dark too."

There are different levels of art when it comes to comics and animation and it's not just a 'comic book guy' assessment of some obscure sixties crossover comic as "art at its finest", but it seems sometimes, that is misunderstood. But there are a lot of ways in which media is often misunderstood.

I suppose it goes to say that Cartoons and Comics aren't necessarily for kids. And that being 'for kids' doesn't make any form of media inherently immature or bad art. (CS Lewis ranted similarly.)

[brownie_utonium]

"There are different levels of art when it comes to comics and animation and it's not just a 'comic book guy' assessment of some obscure sixties crossover comic as "art at its finest", but it seems sometimes, that is misunderstood. But there are a lot of ways in which media is often misunderstood."

Yeah, I was going to say something like this in my first post, but I cut myself off because I was ranting way too long. XD;

ANYWAY. IVY. To reply to YOU, which was what I wanted to do originally, until I got distracted...

You have GOT to move out, girl. I know you know. But I have to say it anyway. I'm glad you have enough self-confidence (or is it just stubborness? XD) to keep doing your own thing even when they're discouraging and ignorant.

I know what you mean about showing parents/family artwork. I've mostly gotten over it, since once I went to college I lost what few shreds of shame I had left and just let my real self hang out all the time... I guess I'm rather fortunate to have a family which tolerates it.

If they think less of you because your talents don't fit their narrow standards of success, your only choice is to prove them wrong. So if you want to publish, go for it! You could always use a pen name, and only reveal that it's really you once you're up on the shelf next to JK Rowling...

[aflightoffancy]

Ha ha! Pen name! I like that idea. You could be the next Mark Twain!

"What? Biting witticism and macabre humor with a mix of philosophy? Sorry, but I don't want to horn in on my alter-ego's day job."