Who would those be? I see you suggested Tyki for the corpse with the severed heart, and I'm aware of his weird 'going through solid things' ability. Also, how strong of an argument would you say Isaac has for why the same body doesn't point to him?
I am unaware of Isaac's abilities or his justification. I honestly don't think the corpses can be of much help, it would be easy to make a murder seem like it was committed by someone else. I doubt many of us here are familiar each other's... methods.
As things stand, we know there are two wolves between Zhores, Saix, Mithos, Grelle and Tyki. And two others between Justin, Ken, Ace, Riddle, Isaak, you and me.
From the first group, Tyki, I think, might be discarded since his brother was taken. And going by his attitude, I don't think Grelle would have gotten rid of Sebastian.
From the second group, Ken-kun was present at first but I haven't seen him since. Riddle has also been mysteriously absent, I am not sure about the others.
Hmph. I was hoping that if we figured out who it should have pointed to, it might give something else to work with on top of everything else. You're right, though, about making murders look like they were committed by someone else and the lack of knowledge on each other's methods.
Hmm, let's focus on the smaller group. You're saying the odds are good that there are two wolves among Zhores, Saix and Mithos. I don't know either well enough to know if Grelle or Tyki would have offed Sebastian and Misfit, respectively, but Grelle seems too... simpleminded to think of using it as a cover. What do you think of the remaining three?
I was one of the votes on Zhores early on, I later moved it to try to prevent Haruki-kun from going up. Mostly Zhores seems well-informed despite not having made many appearances, this means he must be active elsewhere.
Saix is someone I am more familiar with, he is always quiet so I do not find his lack of activity suspicious.
Mithos seems very... precise. If we assume there are two wolves in each original group, I would point to Zhores and Mithos in the first one.
One of the votes on Zhores, eh? I voted on him originally before switching to Haruki once the deal with the bodies came out. I had no real reason to see either one pointing to him. He seems pretty useless and barely said anything before tonight. He could have just watched the discussion and had nothing to add-even I haven't said much in public this game, doing a lot of watching when I wasn't talking to Ace-but he has much less to show for it, and probably didn't vote at all the first night. Definitely not in ousting.
I only know Mithos from that other kill game, the one you and I were in. He was a sheep then, right? Does he seem the type to act the same no matter his role?
Let's assume Tyki and Grelle are sheep. Are the wolves that stupid to purposefully narrow down that group to two obvious sheep and a three-person group of two wolves and a sheep? They hit both Sebastian and Misfit in the same night. Either they're really lacking in any game sense, they didn't predict this damning them, or the wolves do include Tyki and/or Grelle and did this on purpose hoping to use it as a cover. (I've seen wolves do this and it nearly cost the sheep the game - Zhores was in that game, in limbo at the time it happened.) I can't decide.
The other wolves could have overpowered them, too. It's how us sheep nearly lost that game the third night; few believed Aeris would have let the other wolves eat Zack - in a game with intense psychological consequences for the eaten - but it turned out her team was overruled.
I don't think Tyki would have done it if he'd have enough say, so I can only see it happening if he was overpowered. Otherwise I think he's a sheep.
I think Grelle would be more suspicious, in that case. If Tyki were a wolf it would have been unnecessary to eat Devit, especially when the wolves are so close to winning.
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As things stand, we know there are two wolves between Zhores, Saix, Mithos, Grelle and Tyki. And two others between Justin, Ken, Ace, Riddle, Isaak, you and me.
From the first group, Tyki, I think, might be discarded since his brother was taken. And going by his attitude, I don't think Grelle would have gotten rid of Sebastian.
From the second group, Ken-kun was present at first but I haven't seen him since. Riddle has also been mysteriously absent, I am not sure about the others.
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Hmm, let's focus on the smaller group. You're saying the odds are good that there are two wolves among Zhores, Saix and Mithos. I don't know either well enough to know if Grelle or Tyki would have offed Sebastian and Misfit, respectively, but Grelle seems too... simpleminded to think of using it as a cover. What do you think of the remaining three?
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Saix is someone I am more familiar with, he is always quiet so I do not find his lack of activity suspicious.
Mithos seems very... precise. If we assume there are two wolves in each original group, I would point to Zhores and Mithos in the first one.
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I only know Mithos from that other kill game, the one you and I were in. He was a sheep then, right? Does he seem the type to act the same no matter his role?
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There's one thing that bugs me, though...
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I don't think Tyki would have done it if he'd have enough say, so I can only see it happening if he was overpowered. Otherwise I think he's a sheep.
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Out of curiosity, any thoughts on the second day's groupings? It's another set of two in one, three in the other.
Justin *
Devit sheep
Belphegor *
Mithos
Ken *
Zhores
Saix
Ace *
Ladd v wolf?
Sebastian sheep
Muraki
Grelle *
Riddle
Tyki *
Isaak
Haruki * v sheep?
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