BtVS 5x22: The Gift [The Issue with Spuffy]

Jul 14, 2013 17:54

In my book, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (and Angel too) is a damn well near a perfect show. That is not to say I deny that they both have flaws (the treatment of Cordelia in Angel season 4 is the biggest one), but Joss creates such a perfect blend of amazing characterization, poignant and witty writing and great style that these flaws are hard to ( Read more... )

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istne_pieklo July 18 2013, 08:22:06 UTC
Cordy just makes my heart ache. T?T As much as Joss Whedon is nearly flawless in my eyes, that was just one major wtf and no-no-no! T_T
Oh, I do think she shows trust in him (he's already proved she can trust him), but imho, that alone isn't enough. I agree: it all depends on the interpretation of what he means and maybe what she means by it. Buffy seems to trust him as an ally, but I don't see much real respect there. I love their fragile friendshippy vibes at the beginning of season 6 when Buffy is calmer around him and even trusts him with secrets she doesn't reveal to anyone else, but they don't have that at the end of season 5. It's true that she trusts him with the plans and with Dawn, so maybe that alone is enough for Spike... Okay, that hasn't occurred to me before. XD If such displays of trust are enough for Spike, then his speech totally makes sense, I concede. XD But objectively, there are still miles to go.
Oh, I love fandom discussions! :)) Unless they turn into wank. I'm usually very careful around them because you never know what might spark character bashing or writer bashing or whatnot))

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rebcake July 18 2013, 17:29:08 UTC
I'm always struck by how Buffy immediately stops the name-calling and "shut up, Spike" stuff once she realizes how far he's willing to go to protect her/Dawn in Intervention.

I liken it to "Pride and Prejudice", when Lizzie discovers that Darcy is responsible for rescuing Lydia (and therefore the entire family) from a fate worse than death. All her preconceptions come tumbling down in an instant, and she is able to allow the attraction she'd been feeling/fighting blossom into something more. In Buffy's case, not much more, as there's an apocalypse a'brewing, and also because she's not wrong about all Spike's past misdeeds, the way Lizzie was. Still, that kiss seems to me to convey a bit more than "gee, thanks".

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istne_pieklo July 18 2013, 22:13:12 UTC
I think she still tells him to shut up a couple of times afterwards))
I love Lizzie and Darcy's dynamics. I agree that there is something like that between Spike and Buffy too, with an extra edge.

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