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A few days ago I discussed my not including any sex scenes in the fics-we were talking about “Leaving”, where, if you recall, there is a clear mention of Remus and Sirius’s making love. And I explained it the same way I would explain the lack of the kiss: what would describing that change? What purpose would it serve? Now you complemented this train of thought: whoever wants to see them make love, or kiss, will do so without my help. Although, just as you, I realise that most R/S fans would love to see this kiss, I feel I must remain faithful to my own convictions. It’s deeply reassuring to know that you consistently support me in this.
Yay for the familiar sweaters! I can’t help being happy about it in quite a silly manner. Oh yes, for me, too, Sirius had known the sweater. I think it was not just my (alpha-reader’s) interpretation, but also my (author’s) intention.
Yes, I thought you might actually mean Peter-centric, and I understood you correctly, after all. In this case, thank you for showing your Remus to me so convincingly!
I haven’t found out about the argument, as that I could only do as the author, for which it’s too late. I have an idea as a reader, though, so perhaps we can discuss it. I think it was something about Sirius’s possessiveness, or dominance. Like, his tendency to speak for Remus; I can actually see a whole scene in an Order meeting and after that. But it’s just my uncertain interpretation. What is yours?
You indicated the potential of the similarities, that’s for sure. Thank you for developing the concept now: it is truly fascinating. I see that you’re tempted to see the drabbles as telling one extensive story-and I must admit that I am beginning to attempt and think of them this way, too, under your influence. After all, this is how I got to write “Soaked” in the first place. It also made me try and reorganise my Guide in the profile.
It seems I still haven’t managed to compose a note of some sensible length. Thank you again for all your valuable remarks and continually supporting my (hopefully existent) development. These discussions are a real pleasure.
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In any case you wonderfully avoid any artificial acts which would look like added only in order to compose a satisfying romantic story. At the same time any R/S lover with imagination can get the arousingly soaked pups in a passionate kiss and more.
You’d written Leaving before I started “teaching” you, so I trust it’s genuinely your own conviction, too, not to show any kisses unnecessarily. I wouldn’t like to guide you to the path of unpopularity in the fandom without a warning, but I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before.
And it seems I’ve replied to the last few paragraphs elsewhere by mistake, perhaps because I’d come here to see what you had said about seeing your stories as one extensive story. So I finally manage to post a slightly shorter comment!
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Oh, my, but the “arousingly soaked pups in a passionate kiss and more”, coming from you, almost killed me on the spot. Especially the “and more”. Seriously, though, of course you’re right, and indeed I have never felt the need to describe any unnecessary kisses (and more). No, now I’ve lied: I told you about the fic when they kiss on Sirius’s bike, and there are two of my first fanfics, “In Your Lap” being one of them, which are nothing but unnecessary romantic stories. In the first case, however, I rather wanted to try showing the (more than physical) intimacy and tension, and in the latter it was an attempt at silly and funny fluff. And anyway, there is no kiss in “In Your Lap” (for which I was delicately criticised, too. Damn popularity; viva la individualité et les convictionnes! … or something).
Ha! Shorter comments, indeed. In fact I feel a bit strange.
(Opera still hasn’t shut down. Tentative Viva la Opera, then!)
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You actually tempt me to act against my conviction and to try writing a kiss (and more?) It’s incredible that I’ve spent four years in the fandom, three years aware of the fact that I belong to a community of puppyshippers, and I’ve never before considered writing anything more explicitly R/S. I don’t think it would be too much like carelessly playing with the precious characters, if I wrote an intimate situation which I can believe my Remus and Sirius have shared. It would be like playing with my writer’s image, and perhaps I’ve taken myself too seriously. I could post the piece only on remusxsirius, not on my journal, and I could get another icon to use, if not another user name…
It’s strange that I wasn’t tempted when I still cared more about popularity and had some hope for it. I’m glad that you have at least tried writing kisses, so you know you can use them when they can serve any purposes.
I do hope your Opera is still alive.
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Oh, for pity’s sake, you almost killed me with this image: PaulaMcG PamelaO’P - the Porn Queen of Fandom, plus a smutty icon, necessarily with a collar. Brilliant! When do you start writing?
And seriously, would you really consider writing something more explicit? Because I know I would, if I only saw a purpose. Perhaps I will, as Winter (one of the lalallama_girls) convinced me to try and write this horrible fic I’d told you about, with Remus agreeing to sleep with Sirius against his own will. (Winter’s also the one who gave me the original idea.) In this case I see the purpose of some more explicit descriptions (but I doubt “more” means “much” in anyone’s understanding, anyway), the problem is that I’m not sure whether I believe this could happen, whether I actually see it.
No, it isn’t strange at all that you wouldn’t have wanted to write kisses earlier. You have always written only with a purpose in your mind, and I’m sure that this is still the necessary condition. Perhaps now it might be fulfilled, is all.
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Oh, now you almost killed me and made me start planning an explicit story by Pamela. I could even think of some purposes. A bit later I was reminded of why it’ll be hard for me to make my charaters and readers enjoy the scene. But I don’t care for eating either and I can write about Remus enjoying meals - while I actually prefer his starving.
In fact, I could find a fic based on Winter’s idea particularly interesting, if not so pleasant, to read. Could you see it happening in an alternative reality? Because maybe your Remus and Sirius are not completely established as persons in whole lives, I think I could accept that.
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You write Remus enjoying his meals splendidly, so I imagine you can also manage to write good explicit stories. So, have you already started on something? When can I see it?
I’ve never written AU, but as my fics seem to slowly become a whole in my eyes, this one (currently under a working title “Choice”) would be sort of AU in the, er, Ishonn-verse or something.
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