Redefinition (RP for starspangledcap)

Aug 25, 2007 14:54

*OOC -- Yes, finally.

Tony didn't make up his mind right away.

After he heard Sally's speech at the awards banquet, after he met the girl and her mother at the reception, he knew he would have to talk to Steve. But nothing had changed, really; the cirumstances that made their meeting in person a foolish risk were the same as ever. Tony ( Read more... )

sally, cap, rp

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rethread iron_tony August 26 2007, 17:02:39 UTC
"All right --" Tony clenched his hands together over his knee, and wished this didn't feel quite so much like a mission briefing. But then, he was comfortable with those, and Steve was a good listener when he wanted to be.

"The Socratic method obviously isn't working here, so bear with me for a minute while I try to explain. A palimpsest is -- well, it's a term from archaeology or -- something people run across when they're deciphering ancient scrolls. Before there was paper, the things people used to write on -- parchments, papyri, stone tablets -- they weren't cheap or easy to come by. So sometimes if you wrote something and didn't want it or wanted to get rid of it, you'd just scrape away and write overtop of what was already there. But, over time, in the aging process, the old text would resurface. So scholars start to look at the writing that's on the surface, but it turns out that what's more interesting is what's underneath."

He stopped, reached up a hand to scratch behind his collar. "This is supposed to be a sort of a metaphor. Are you with me so far?"

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Re: rethread starspangledcap August 26 2007, 17:12:11 UTC
Steve nodded, slowly, from his side of the couch. He was beginning to see where Tony was going with this, but he didn't dare guess, for fear of being wrong.

"Yes," he said. "It's a blank slate that isn't."

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 17:34:02 UTC
"Right -- exactly --" Tony leaned forward, his body language showing more excitement than he intended but -- just maybe, Steve was getting it.

"I've given a lot of thought to Wanda's little habit of realigning the world -- writing over history, so to speak. And I don't mean just recently. Since the first time it happened. I didn't remember that, afterwards, but -- well, some people did." Just as well not to mention Peter Parker, at the moment. "I spent some time trying to figure it out and something never actually sat right with me, but I couldn't put my finger on it. But then today --"

He cleared his throat. "I'd been assuming that we were dealing with a standard issue alternate universe. Chaos theory says one thing changes -- a butterfuly flaps his wings, Magneto takes over the world, a real estate developer from Bedford Falls was never born, and the dominoes fall from there.

"But Wanda's worlds don't hold up to that kind of analysis. Chaos doesn't work that way. It's not that the changes are too random; it's that they're not random enough. And so I think I figured it out. Wanda wasn't juggling probabilities. She was writing a story."

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 17:40:44 UTC
Steve's forehead wrinkled. "A story?" he repeated. "She wasn't exactly controlling our actions. She doesn't know us well enough to have formed everything that happened in that world with her mind."

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 17:50:19 UTC
Tony considered for a second then said, "Right, you're right. Correction. She was more of the -- head writer on some massive collaborative project. She created the broad outline, but both times she used a powerful telepath to tap into our minds. Everybody, both times got something they had -- maybe not wanted, but speculated about. The first time around, from what I've been able to gather, my parents were alive, and you never got frozen in the ice." He couldn't help smirking a bit as he said, "And from what I can tell, you and I never met each other. So, possibly, that was our first choice."

" But for whatever reason, the second time it happened, there were the two of us, and there was Sally. And Sally. Look, please don't think I'm crazy, but after meeting her today, I really think -- I think you and I and Wanda, working together -- I think we invented her."

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 18:01:32 UTC
"Invented her?" Steve's eyes widen. "If you met her, surely you could tell that she's a real person. Flesh and blood. And that baby we failed to save was certainly real."

Steve didn't remember anything about Wanda's first world, so he didn't address Tony's first statement. But from what he could tell, that world had been created from surface thoughts - the desires they'd always consciously assumed they'd wanted, easily accessible to a telepath as strong as Xavier. This second world, on the other hand, was created from the desires they'd never dared articulate - hidden desires that only a Phoenix could find, but desires that, nevertheless, were even more cherished.

If anything, that second world had been the first choice.

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 18:20:18 UTC
"Oh, she's real now. There's no question about that. Sally Stetins has a life and a family and -- believe me -- a personality. And yes, of course, that child really existed in this world, and in a sense they're the same person but -- the question is, what's the surface writing and what's the palimpsest. You think it's a coincidence that this girl who grew up in Minnesota is a scientific genius, wants to go to MIT, and idolizes Captain America?

"No way. Just like -- well, take Jean. She and Wanda had this long, complicated relationship in the other world, but a lot of their history resembled things that had happened with Jean and Scott. Maybe what Wanda and Jean had was real, but what was in this world happened first. Version 2.0, if you will, was Wanda's invention of a story based on the first story. So -- we come back to this world, and Wanda brings Sally back with us; puts her back in Minnesota where we found her, brings her mother back to life, and it seems like she's growing up in this world. But -- this is Sally 2.0. The one we had was the original. At least --"

Tony sat back on the sofa and shrugged. "Like I said. It's a theory."

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 18:27:43 UTC
Steve took a second to let Tony's words sink in. "So you're saying - you're admitting - that, in some way, because of the alternate universes, because of this palimpsest theory, this Sally is still our daughter?"

He tried not to sound too hopeful.

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 18:42:48 UTC
"I'm saying -- " Tony began cautiously, not sure what hopes he was stirring in Steve; not sure what hopes he wanted to stir. "I'm saying that Sally is a character that you and I helped Wanda to invent. See, I had this dream about you and me -- sort of a metaphor for our relationship with the Avengers, and once Wanda and Jean got in my head, it got taken a bit literally. You -- you've got the guilt thing, and the baby who died in that attack was a living symbol of that. Then, Wanda, who wishes we would get along -- and who thinks imaginary babies solve everything -- so --"

He shrugged. "I'm saying all that came together, and we invented that world, and Sally was part of it. And I'm saying she's real now and that, beneath the surface, she's the same girl we raised." He coughed. "As our daughter. Now. You know what this means?"

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 18:49:29 UTC
Steve felt a warm glow beginning to spread over him. Finally, Tony was admitting it. Finally, things were making some sort of sense. Steve shifted over a bit on the couch, turning toward Tony with his whole body, instead of just his head, and tried to hide his smile.

But Steve still didn't know what sort of caveat Tony was about to make. "What does it mean?" he asked, trying his best to sound simply curious.

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 18:57:08 UTC
"Well, if we're her parents it means we owe her -- something. I haven't really worked out everything it means but -- I think it means more than stalking her workplace or even giving her money for college. Especially because --"

He cleared his throat again. Steve looked so damn happy, and for a moment Tony didn't want to say the next part. He had a feeling Steve wouldn't like it.

So he moved closer, put his hand on the edge of the couch, in the general direction of Steve's shoulder, but not close enough to touch. "Especially because, in the current circumstances -- considering what else we know about Sally -- it's kind of embarrassing we've both overlooked this part."

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 19:04:23 UTC
Steve's eyes clouded again. Something about the tone of Tony's voice sounded foreboding, but he wasn't sure what he meant. "What have we overlooked?" he asked.

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 19:07:26 UTC
"Steve --"

And now Tony's hand moved, and he was touching Steve's shoulder, looking straight into those bright blue eyes.

"Sally Stetins is a power."

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 20:03:20 UTC
Steve's shoulders tensed under Tony's hand. He'd suspected Sally had powers in this world, when he'd visited her at the Hot Topic. But that hadn't been confirmed.

"We don't know that for sure. Just because she had powers in the other world doesn't mean she has them here - Madame Hydra hasn't been there to activate them."

"And even if she does-" Steve's eyes turned cold. Could Tony really be thinking of treating their daughter like he'd treated his friends during the war? "She's not a vigilante. She doesn't have to register, under the modified SHRA."

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iron_tony August 26 2007, 20:06:34 UTC
Tony drew his hand back and slammed it against the top of the couch. "Jesus, Steve did I even say that word?"

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starspangledcap August 26 2007, 20:11:16 UTC
"No." It was true; Tony hadn't. Steve let out a sigh, relieved that Tony wasn't thinking of shipping Sally off to the Negative Zone. "I'm sorry," he said, and he met Tony's eyes again to show his honesty. "But what are you suggesting we do about her - unconfirmed - powers?"

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