Anti-intellectualism

Oct 28, 2004 09:34

Cliff Bostock recently wrote an essay for Creative Loafing called, Derrida and Dubya: Anti-intellectualism in America. It was very interesting. Some of his points made me immediately think of the OTO though. I read:

The anti-intellectual typically exhibits little curiosity about other perspectives and no skepticism about his own positions. When ( Read more... )

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Equality? keith418 October 28 2004, 18:31:44 UTC
Those who toss the term "elitist" around the most seem hesitant to apply that criticism to the structure of the OTO itself - which is, with its secrets, initiations, grades, and hierarchies, not an organizational structure that would ever have been invented, or implemented, by an egalitarian. A friend of mine asks, "If we are all equal, why aren't we all 9th degrees?" Given the difficulty of ameliorating the problems egalitarians are, invariably, going to have with the essential structure of the OTO itself, what are people going to do? Complain about tone? Call names? What other choices do they really have?

Let’s say you know someone with a very strong will and a very formidable intellect. In addition, this person is really well educated by American standards. If he is able to beat you down with every argument he utters, what can you do in response? You cannot, as a Thelemite, critique his will. So you are left to insinuate that his superior intellect and reasoning skills have somehow compromised him and that he has exalted them in place of his will. This is ridiculous, but it is a way, I think, for those with weak intellects to deploy anti-intellectualism to console themselves when they lose. No one in the OTO, for example, ever starts an argument by attacking reason per se. They only see fit to remind us of reason's subordinated position after they lose an argument and are made to look ridiculous. No one wants to consider that a strong intellect may very well be, in fact, an indication of a strong will.

All the people who want us all to be equal seem like they could stand to ponder what Ludovici wrote on this subject:

"What kind of person is it who clamours for this meaningless desideratum, equality? Certainly not the beautiful person, because to him equality, if it could be achieved, would result in bringing him down to the common level. Neither can it be the person specially gifted in any of the arts and sciences; for, again, equality, if it could by some miracle be wrought, would amount to wiping out the advantage of such special gifts. The self-reliant, the strong, the skilful, the able and the desirable, in all walks of life, are never stirred by this cry for equality; because they look down from their eminence, and cannot therefore conceive that levelling could possibly prove an advantage.

"It must therefore be the undesirable, the unskillful, the incompetent, the ugly, the ungifted, in all walks of life, the incapable of all classes, who want equality. And they want it because, looking up from their position of chafing mediocrity and ungainliness, and beholding their more gifted brethren, they realize that equality must redound to their benefit. A moment's reflection would tell them that it is an impossible ideal; their mortified vanity, however, is stronger than their reason, and urges them to believe in it, ridiculous as it may be."

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Re: Equality? b_v_borgia October 29 2004, 18:02:22 UTC
Intellectualism is an easy road for lying, anyone can find any quote or book to support some claim or some supposed truth.

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Re: Equality? irenicspace October 29 2004, 18:12:27 UTC
litterary jousting is not logic, we are discussing the anti-intellectual's inability to follow and use logic in a debate or discussion.

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anti-intellectual rawmr October 29 2004, 19:04:39 UTC
Really, despite what the writer chose to use, the proper term, and one used for many years now, is "reactionary," not anti-intellectual. This is a psychological disorder, not an intellectual one, as anyone, regardless of mental capacity, is capable of ignoring fact, logic and reason.

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reason....lying....skew.... b_v_borgia October 29 2004, 20:34:19 UTC
But, is it possible that people dislike certain people not because their alledged superior intellect and logic, but because of the content of their character and how they treat others?

After all a logical asshole is still an asshole...

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Re: reason....lying....skew.... irenicspace October 29 2004, 20:55:41 UTC
That is a possibility.

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Re: reason....lying....skew.... rawmr October 30 2004, 17:08:19 UTC
Elementary. But anyone who brings up uncomfortable facts and truths is bound to be perceived as an asshole, no matter how tactfully they present themselves. And when someone ignores the value of what another says just because they don't like them, then that in turn becomes shameless stupidity.

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Re: reason....lying....skew.... b_v_borgia October 30 2004, 17:14:17 UTC
I disagree, and in my disagreeing with you I have no opinion about your coolness or assholeness.

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Basic principles rawmr October 30 2004, 18:28:01 UTC
"I disagree, and in my disagreeing with you I have no opinion about your coolness or assholeness."

In the example I was merely stating the most basic priciples of Occult and conventional psychology concerning denial and the psychology of the subconscious. But no one says you can't rewrite them.

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