* you mentioned that until she was sleeping with her friend, no one said anything, but here is an important point: yukimura has no effect on her life in canon. i am a fan of the phoenix wright games, and even to me, if anyone in an rp tried to play maya fey aged up in a sex game, together with godot as an example, i would be skeeved. this is the same situation, and why you are getting noticed for this. i am not saying you should not do things like this because it is fun to play ships, but you are playing from a canon and from a series where their lives do influence each other and lang and ema have an age gap that even on Amat, would be reason to worry about if they got closer here. what will happen if somewhere down the line, ema falls for him and they have to go back home? it isn't something you need to worry for but if it happens, wouldn't it be something that could be conflicting for them? seeing how you are playing, you would not bring this up at all, which is disappointing as you have potential to do this right and you aren't. right now, it even seems like it is irreversible because it started off so badly, which is a pity as this could have gone places and happened well.
i have had a friend who plays shihna who has wanted to app who has been turned off from applying to Amatomnes because she doesn't want to deal with all of this or interfere with these plans, even if she isn't looking for a relationship between lang and shihna but she feels like you would make it difficult to pursue any sort of close relationship or conflict with how you throw ema into lang's business all the time.
they might be working together, but i think you are also ignoring the other cr you have as well as lang's. your actions affect the people from your canon and not always will they be ignored, the way your edgeworth acknowledged and politely looked away from it all. dynamics can change, others can influence chemistry, difffrent development can happen that will make things go differently than you thought they would. to go into something in a community game where all of this can occur with a set idea in mind is a little naive of you, but power to you if you can do it believably, which at the moment isn't how things are. i hope you will think on these points and try and focus on the character than an exclusive pairing, because right now, all it looks like is that you are playing something that you and lang can just muse box or meme, and doesn't belong in a game because of how oddly the development is progressing on your part.
thank you for reading this, i hope you will find it useful.
I want to start by apologizing for the slightly late response. I had meant to reply to this yesterday but some things popped up that kept me from it once I got off work. That said, take you for taking the time to respond to this. I will try and not be too lengthy in my own reply, but I do have a few things I wanted to say.
Your response made me realize something I have felt odd about the situation with her conversation with Edgeworth and after going back to the links you have given me, I've figured it out. If you check the timestamps, Edgeworth had not yet said this much on an ooc level. I remembered feeling like I had been thrown for a loop at the time, but I did not realize it until just now.
At 14th-Dec-2011 03:04 am (UTC) Ema asks Edgeworth if something should have been wrong. Roughly 16th-Dec-2011 03:06 am (UTC) (according to Lang's timestamp, my own says it's around 9pm but that's my own time) Ema makes her proposition to Lang. At 16th-Dec-2011 06:40 am (UTC) Edgeworth brings up Lang to Ema. This is roughly three hours after I had already made the post. While on an ic level it might not look right and I handled it was best I could, without Edgeworth's mun telling me that she was going to bring as much up (which she hadn't. I didn't even know that he had spoken to Lang about it until it as well until one of them brought it up on plurk and I went back to read it and even then that wasn't until roughly a day after Ema's own post). Had I received Edgeworth's tag sooner I may have thought differently about what I was doing, but at that point I had already made her post and it had enough tags that it was too late to take it back.
It's also an incredibly minor detail, but you say encounters when at this point they had only had one. However, my primary concern is where it might look like Ema is desperately throwing herself at Lang because as far as I have been aware she's shown she's in no way interested in him romantically. I could of course be wrong here but I kind of get the impression that what I am saying oocly is being read too far into on an ic level. Never have I said icly that she's developed a crush on him and if I was going to, I would be sure to explain clearly the exact levels of this crush, nor is it irreversible as it's not something I've actually stated in game.
As things are now their relationship is purely professional with the side of collar loosening in which they'll spend a little amount of time together to take the edge of the whole sex thing. While we're both aware it could be strange, particularly due to Lang's canon point, it also still stands that they knew each other now more than they ever had in the game's canon (she was around for maybe half an hour and they hardly spoke). It's incredibly disappointing to hear that someone refuses to app Shih-na purely because of Ema and Lang's involvement in one another, particularly because Ema really doesn't care to get involved in Lang's personal life right now. She doesn't really care who else she sleeps with or speaks with outside of Edgeworth and why should she?
When it comes down to it, right now nothing is exactly going on with them. They enjoy each other's company on occasion and that's about it. If Ema (or Lang) were to actually start develop feelings for each other that would be a bridge to cross for them, but right now I can at least speak for Ema's sake that she has little to no interest in romance. If she were to start developing feelings for anyone I would be sure it would be properly developed. As things are now there is no need to worry about Ema and Lang heading this direction with one another.
I also wanted to say that with Ema's drunken post I am quite aware exactly how she had come off and I was more than ready for this. Personally, I delight in putting her in embarrassing situations and if your character saw her as an idiot I honestly would not mind if he kept this opinion of her for all eternity. Honestly, I would love some more negative cr with her, seeing as how has a grand total of one person that gets under her skin now that Klavier has returned to the game.
As for the inconstancy, this is something I can say I am honestly aware of and have worried about before. In Apollo Justice I personally feel as if there are blaring gaps in her personality and use the previous two games to help fill in the gaps. When it comes down to it, I like to keep all sides of her through the years in mind. I personally like to get her more excitable and ramble off more as we see in Rise from the Ashes because she's not given the chance much in Apollo Justice, yet I still feel as if it's a part of her personality. However, this is something I will check back with. I wish I could say I could do it right this second, but sometime within the next few months I will take the time to check out Apollo Justice again and get a feel for what needs to go where in this respect.
* you mentioned that until she was sleeping with her friend, no one said anything, but here is an important point: yukimura has no effect on her life in canon. i am a fan of the phoenix wright games, and even to me, if anyone in an rp tried to play maya fey aged up in a sex game, together with godot as an example, i would be skeeved. this is the same situation, and why you are getting noticed for this. i am not saying you should not do things like this because it is fun to play ships, but you are playing from a canon and from a series where their lives do influence each other and lang and ema have an age gap that even on Amat, would be reason to worry about if they got closer here. what will happen if somewhere down the line, ema falls for him and they have to go back home? it isn't something you need to worry for but if it happens, wouldn't it be something that could be conflicting for them? seeing how you are playing, you would not bring this up at all, which is disappointing as you have potential to do this right and you aren't. right now, it even seems like it is irreversible because it started off so badly, which is a pity as this could have gone places and happened well.
i have had a friend who plays shihna who has wanted to app who has been turned off from applying to Amatomnes because she doesn't want to deal with all of this or interfere with these plans, even if she isn't looking for a relationship between lang and shihna but she feels like you would make it difficult to pursue any sort of close relationship or conflict with how you throw ema into lang's business all the time.
they might be working together, but i think you are also ignoring the other cr you have as well as lang's. your actions affect the people from your canon and not always will they be ignored, the way your edgeworth acknowledged and politely looked away from it all. dynamics can change, others can influence chemistry, difffrent development can happen that will make things go differently than you thought they would. to go into something in a community game where all of this can occur with a set idea in mind is a little naive of you, but power to you if you can do it believably, which at the moment isn't how things are. i hope you will think on these points and try and focus on the character than an exclusive pairing, because right now, all it looks like is that you are playing something that you and lang can just muse box or meme, and doesn't belong in a game because of how oddly the development is progressing on your part.
thank you for reading this, i hope you will find it useful.
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Your response made me realize something I have felt odd about the situation with her conversation with Edgeworth and after going back to the links you have given me, I've figured it out. If you check the timestamps, Edgeworth had not yet said this much on an ooc level. I remembered feeling like I had been thrown for a loop at the time, but I did not realize it until just now.
At 14th-Dec-2011 03:04 am (UTC) Ema asks Edgeworth if something should have been wrong. Roughly 16th-Dec-2011 03:06 am (UTC) (according to Lang's timestamp, my own says it's around 9pm but that's my own time) Ema makes her proposition to Lang. At 16th-Dec-2011 06:40 am (UTC) Edgeworth brings up Lang to Ema. This is roughly three hours after I had already made the post. While on an ic level it might not look right and I handled it was best I could, without Edgeworth's mun telling me that she was going to bring as much up (which she hadn't. I didn't even know that he had spoken to Lang about it until it as well until one of them brought it up on plurk and I went back to read it and even then that wasn't until roughly a day after Ema's own post). Had I received Edgeworth's tag sooner I may have thought differently about what I was doing, but at that point I had already made her post and it had enough tags that it was too late to take it back.
It's also an incredibly minor detail, but you say encounters when at this point they had only had one. However, my primary concern is where it might look like Ema is desperately throwing herself at Lang because as far as I have been aware she's shown she's in no way interested in him romantically. I could of course be wrong here but I kind of get the impression that what I am saying oocly is being read too far into on an ic level. Never have I said icly that she's developed a crush on him and if I was going to, I would be sure to explain clearly the exact levels of this crush, nor is it irreversible as it's not something I've actually stated in game.
As things are now their relationship is purely professional with the side of collar loosening in which they'll spend a little amount of time together to take the edge of the whole sex thing. While we're both aware it could be strange, particularly due to Lang's canon point, it also still stands that they knew each other now more than they ever had in the game's canon (she was around for maybe half an hour and they hardly spoke). It's incredibly disappointing to hear that someone refuses to app Shih-na purely because of Ema and Lang's involvement in one another, particularly because Ema really doesn't care to get involved in Lang's personal life right now. She doesn't really care who else she sleeps with or speaks with outside of Edgeworth and why should she?
When it comes down to it, right now nothing is exactly going on with them. They enjoy each other's company on occasion and that's about it. If Ema (or Lang) were to actually start develop feelings for each other that would be a bridge to cross for them, but right now I can at least speak for Ema's sake that she has little to no interest in romance. If she were to start developing feelings for anyone I would be sure it would be properly developed. As things are now there is no need to worry about Ema and Lang heading this direction with one another.
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As for the inconstancy, this is something I can say I am honestly aware of and have worried about before. In Apollo Justice I personally feel as if there are blaring gaps in her personality and use the previous two games to help fill in the gaps. When it comes down to it, I like to keep all sides of her through the years in mind. I personally like to get her more excitable and ramble off more as we see in Rise from the Ashes because she's not given the chance much in Apollo Justice, yet I still feel as if it's a part of her personality. However, this is something I will check back with. I wish I could say I could do it right this second, but sometime within the next few months I will take the time to check out Apollo Justice again and get a feel for what needs to go where in this respect.
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