"Stories that just generally drip crap out of every electronic orifice"

Aug 11, 2010 20:07

Interesting post and discussion from author Lee Goldberg about self-published authors. In the comments is a lot of back and forth between Goldberg and Joe Konrath, a professional author who’s gone the self-published route ( Read more... )

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fpb August 12 2010, 07:17:45 UTC
I am entirely on the "pro-crap" side, with one proviso: that reviewers and commentators are allowed to say what they like, with no howls of protest or attempts at comeback by incensed authors. This is not aimed at you (of course) and not intended to mean that an author should not be naturally annoyed by negative reviews; but they must be taken in a spirit of fairness, in the sense of "I can print anything I like within the limits of the law - and so can they, even if they honk me off".

Don't think this is a meaningless proviso. Cyber-libel, cyber-defamation, cyber-mobbing and cyber-lynching are well practiced and developed techniques in this lawless Wild West of fibreoptics cables, and a bad writer with a high sense of self-regard is just the kind of person to set them off. It was bed enough in pre-electronic fandom; in a world where anyone in Pago Pago or Ulanbaatar can access a page set up exactly to slander an unknowing third party, fairness becomes an absolute necessity.

some books really are too niche to find a publisher, especially in non-fiction... Tell me about it. http://www.facesofarthur.org.uk/fabio/contents.htm I am still keeping, God knows why, a sheaf of letters from some sixty publishers, repeating in a melodious chorus the exact same statement: Your contention is interesting and scholarly (one guy even praised my Latin, which is rather funny), but 500,000 words and nine volumes are simply too expensive for us to publish. What frustrates the Hell out of me is that virtually every year sees the publication of some moronic and thoroughly unscholarly tome on King Arthur (whose historical figure is at the centre of my research in this book) whose only reason to be printed seems to be that it suits the format requirements. The result is positively degrading to Dark Age British studies; no wonder that the prevailing school right now is the ultra-skeptical one of David Dumville of Cambridge, who specializes in tearing down any theory without building any of his own.

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inverarity August 12 2010, 11:07:05 UTC
Well, you can't stop authors from howling in protest or attempting a comeback, but that always goes badly for the author.

I can see why a nine-volume non-fiction series would be a tough sell. Why haven't you considered Scribd or Smashwords?

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fpb August 12 2010, 12:53:34 UTC
It was years ago, and I'm not sure that that sort of publisher even existed back then. The thing however is that Arthurian hypothetical hystory books are among the safest sellers in the non-fiction field (although some of them strain the definition of non-fiction pretty heavily). I can understand a small publisher with a few dozen employees could not afford such a risk, but when I have subsidiaries of Macmillan or Viking Penguin telling me the same story, I have to ask them whether their marketing and publicity departments are for show only. But what the heck. It was only I who thought the damn book was any good, and I was probably deluding myself anyway.

I think you underrate the potential for retaliation on unwelcome critics. The amount of damaging lies that can be told online against someone, virtually without retribution and often without the victim even knowing, is immense; the internet is one enormous invitation to scheming, vindictive paranoiacs.

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fpb August 12 2010, 12:58:29 UTC
That was me. For some reason, I wasn't logged in.

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inverarity August 12 2010, 13:40:53 UTC
An author is as likely to be harrassed by an insane critic as a critic is likely to be harrassed by an indignant author. Dealing with crazies online is just part of being online; I don't know what sort of insulation from such retaliation you'd propose.

You still have your manuscript, right? You've posted it online? What stops you from turning it into an ebook and publishing it on Smashwords or CreateSpace or Scribd? Your audience would be small, but you probably would find an audience, with a chance of actually getting noticed if your work really has academic merit.

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fpb August 12 2010, 14:21:59 UTC
The Internet polices itself. It is not a perfect way, but it is the only way. I simply say that it should become a basic assumption and a shared value that anyone is entitled to say anything that is not criminal or false, even if you don't like it. What I would like to see is the majority of people standing up for the principle. What bothers me is quite simply the amount of people who will think that anyone who is angry or indignant must have some reason to be indignant. No, sorry, sometimes they are just self-regarding buttheads.

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