My Thoughts At This Point

Aug 18, 2007 16:25

1. As someone without a paid account, I would like to second telewoman's suggestion and add that, should anyone decide to file a suit with a private lawyer (Assuming that's an option with this kind of case. IANAL.), they already have over $200 in pledges to help them and will probably get much more if they ask for it. Just a little incentive ( Read more... )

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flexor August 19 2007, 09:31:59 UTC
"3. Pointing out 6A's hypocrisy will always be cool. Using it as a pretext for banning the people that you don't like is not. Anti-racism, anti-anorexia, and anti-self-harm are all good causes, but I signed up with innocence_jihad when it was strictly anti-censorship, and I'd personally prefer if y'all didn't change the rules half-way into the game."

Word! Karma_kalisutah has spoken wisely. People often get confused about this issue, thinking that to support someone's freedom of expression is the same as supporting their cause.

A good counter-example are the Nuremberg files. This was a list, compiled by a bunch of anti-abortionists, of doctors who had at some point performed abortions, where they lived and a few choice suggestions on how to fire-bomb their houses. This list was banned from their provider, and let me tell you, before you can get an actual ISP to take notice of what's going through their pipes, you really need to take it beyond extremes.

However, Karin Spaink argued that if this list were not on-line, how would we: a) know which particular doctors the bastards were targeting, and b) know that these creeps were active in the first place? So she mirrored the site on her own servers, but suggested to the world at large that some of the addresses might not have survived the mirroring process intact, and might not be as soft a target as the fire-bombers would expect.

So in short: protecting someone's free speech is not necessarily being nice to them. Better to have this stupidity out in the open where we can bomb their stupid ideas into oblivion than to have them festering away underground.

That is the point of having freedom of expression.

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