The LJ Boldout and LJ's tolerance of religiously motivated child abuse

[dogemperor]

(Also crossposted on dark_christian as well as the FandomTossed community on GreatestJournal)

Most of us know by now about the resumption of strikeouts/boldouts.

One particular official post from an LJ employee on the lj_biz community seems to indicate, among other things, that communities promoting anorexia (and by "promoting", we mean "giving explicit instructions

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[chichiri_no_da]

Between this post and the pro-ana stuff, I am just FUMING right now. Why would they remove Pond's beautiful artwork, and then allow these monsters to stick around? I haven't gotten emotional about this up to now, though I did remove all of my fiction to IJ and cancel my paid renewal, but now I feel like crying.

The icon is directed at Livejournal (a 13 year old I've written in graphically sexual positions, I might add. Fuck you, LJ)

[chichiri_no_da]

Pond's "beautiful" work often featured child porn. She's taking her own permaban so much better than all of fandom, it's actually quite humorous.

[chichiri_no_da]

I'm well aware of that. If by "often" you mean "a few times in many years". Pond compiled the statistics, actually. Check out her greatestjournal if you're curious.

And regardless, it doesn't make it any less hypocritical on the part of LJ.

I might add that I was emotional about the existance of these communities, not about Pond's suspension. That, I took very well.

Nice, being anonymous and all, btw. WTF.

[chichiri_no_da]

Sorry about the anon, I'm here via Journalfen.

Pond acknowledges that her work was in questionable taste, and acknowledges the ambiguous age of her characters. She isn't all that upset by this, but fandom is using her as a fallen martyr to protest the unfair practices at LJ when she herself understands why she was banned and harbors no ill will toward it. Drawing child porn "a few times in many years" doesn't negate the fact that the subject was...child porn. The frequency doesn't make it any less illegal, wtf.

[dogemperor]

Assuming that the Powers That Be at Livejournal can in fact be arsed to respond, sure. :3

[thevelvetsun]

This is sickening. Hopefully they will respond to those Abuse reports and shut down the community.

[anotheratheist]

I second that.

[jaz853]

Oh God, that was horrific.

I just feel like LJ is setting their guidelines at "child porn and what we consider child porn and NOTHING ELSE" because the internet isn't policed for pro-ana comms/sites, and baby-beating sites. LJ figures that they will get in trouble for "child porn" so they'll police that, say they'll police anything else, but just come up for convenient excuses for the rest. I have no doubt that this will meet a response of "freedom of speech" and "you can't prove that the babies are suffering, it's just the way they've chosen to raise them." I'm fine with them policing their site if they weren't just doing it in a self-serving manner.

[dogemperor]

THIS.

I mean, I have no objections to them having a TOS. I have no objections over banning specific things in their TOS.

All I want is for them to enforce their TOS uniformly.

The TOS, as written now, prohibits promotion of child abuse as well as info that can be used to harm minors. I think a Bible-based baby-beating community where they are promoting works linked to deaths and hospitalisations of kids qualifies on several different grounds. :(

(And this is coming from someone whom, as an aside, gets squicked at fanfic involving non-con relationships in any fandom and tends to read fanfic involving 18+ consentual sex. Just FWIW.)

[ratatusk]

Oh god, this is disgusting. I work in a bookstore and I've sold the Ezzo book to people. I think I'm going to be sick. I had no idea it was like that.