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Feb 02, 2009 12:01

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thebratqueen February 2 2009, 15:10:24 UTC
I have to admit that I'm one of those people where if I want to read your Twitters I will have you friended on Twitter. I don't get why anyone would copy Twitters over to LJ in what amount to out of context snippets of conversation. The "just scroll down" option doesn't really work when you have people using this regularly and turning a flist into an annoying signal to noise ratio.

I appreciate the concept of the code to remove LJ Loudtwitter posts but does it remove everything or just leave blank spaces? Because if it's a blank space the same size as the twittering that strikes me as the same signal to noise problem. In which case putting the posts behind cut tags make them easier to ignore. As for the difficulty of clicking cut tags to read someone's tweets, if you want to read the tweets why aren't you reading them on Twitter?

Perhaps this is all very kids today/get off my lawn but, other than wanting a backup for some reason, I really don't get the point of LJ Twitter posts. And the feedback loop you have going doesn't really work, because if I have you friended on both systems, which I do, my only option to avoid the redundancies seems to be to defriend you on one or the other. Which I'd hate to do because then I'm cutting off an avenue of communication. (Tweets allowing for types of conversations that replies to LJ posts do not, and vice versa).

Not to pick on you or anything. It's just that I haven't understood the whole Loud Twitter thing for a while and since you did this post I thought maybe it'd be a chance for somebody who's into it to explain it to me in captain dummy speak.

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matgb February 2 2009, 15:34:49 UTC
what amount to out of context snippets of conversation

This? This is a problem. Loudtwitter has a really easy option to remove replies, so you only get content, not conversations, which is what I've set mine to. Others prefer to import everything, I don't get the point as one half of a conversation is pointless, normally.

But the rest of my tweets are normally fairly useful, and I'm specifically using it in order to add content elsewhere, it replaces my old use of direct text messaging posts and similar.

The code should remove the entire list of tweets and not waste any space, that's what it did for me. It may do weird stuff on other layouts, I've no way of knowing but am happy to look if someone has a problem.

I agree with Debi-I have a lot of friends on Twitter and Facebook that don't read my LJ directly, and have others on LJ that don't use Twitter; especially for links and stuff I want to share it's a good way of getting stuff out there.

People that are just using Twitter for the sake of Twitter that export are, to an extent, backing up content dynamically, but that's it. But Debi and I are both using Twitter for itself and to transport stuff elsewhere, so my tone and content in tweets is different-I regularly get long discussions on my Facebook status update tweets, especially if I've linked to something, which is cool.

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thebratqueen February 2 2009, 22:28:18 UTC
Good to know about the coding! I'll have to take a look.

I can also see how if the tweets are done in a way where it's imparting a certain kind of information in a certain manner, then LoudTweets make sense. (Esp since I assume they'd also gather up those posts in a sort of context, even if it's just "All tweets done today" where arguably the collected post is more useful than ferreting out the tweets on one's, erm, twitlist ;) )

I guess the problem lies with those who aren't using the connected system in a mindful manner, and the LJ posts are just a backup archive of sentences that don't mean anything. Which is why the cut tags work so well for someone like me, because they cut down on the noise on my flist, but it's an easy click (esp with various Firefox extensions) to read the content if I want to.

I'll have to try the code out though, to see if that's even more helpful. So much obliged on your input there =)

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kajivar February 2 2009, 15:49:11 UTC
I am in agreement with your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I do appreciate, IB, that you remove the @ replies, but like TBQ said, if I have you friended on both systems, which I do, then it's very redundant.

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innerbrat February 2 2009, 16:01:17 UTC
OTOH, I know that you found me on Twitter first, then friended me on LJ hours after I first imported an LJ post over there, so I attributed the redundancy as one of the reasons we even became LJ friends.

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sleightofhand February 2 2009, 16:38:03 UTC
I have to also agree with the feedback loop thing. If I'm looking for twitter-style communication, I'll login to Twitter; if I'm looking for LJ posts I'll login to LJ. The constant circle of 1) post to Twitter 2) have these Twitters appear on LJ 3) have that LJ post appear on Twitter... does seem kind of excessive.

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innerbrat February 2 2009, 17:14:27 UTC
You're not far wrong.

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davegodfrey February 2 2009, 17:23:30 UTC
Yep that's my take on it too. I don't use Twitter, and I'm not sure I'll bother. Given that it usually takes me 10 minutes to write a comment to someone on LJ as I want to phrase it correctly, the chances of me sending more than one Twit a day is somewhat small.

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