Trying something again, only differently

Dec 30, 2009 00:09

This evening, after several days of thinking I should, I performed a meditation I first learned back in 2006. I had made an attempt at performing it regularly for a while, but I am notoriously undisciplined in such things, as this series of posts indicates ( Read more... )

alan watts, qabalah, atheism

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geezer_also December 31 2009, 21:24:09 UTC
I have a difficult time getting my mind around the idea of a mystical atheism. However, a spiritual realm does not necessarily postulate the necessity of a God. On the other hand, a spiritual/mystic realm might indicate gods. Which brings the question does atheism rule out the existence of god or only GOD?.......
I'm not so sure what I just wrote, but it sounded cool enough to post on my LJ. Possibly the main reason I am happy to have you as a friend is that I am "forced" to think outside my rut, which I haven't done for years.

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elnigma December 31 2009, 22:04:45 UTC
I'd say Carl Sagan was a mystical atheist. His reaction to science, nature, particularly the stars was of a glowing mystical vibration. His rant about "starstuff" years ago during 'Cosmos'. Go look at it. Yeah. I think he was almost animist: He saw the "life" in the life and non-life, which he felt was not encompassed by the name of deity, having value in itself, which is something that some non-atheists forget to care about. (What are we? What are they? And not to diminish either. ) Science has given and pointed to wonderful connections of "us" with "other". You'll notice that one of the hugest objections to science some Christians have is it connecting "humans" with "animals" - that's why they hate Darwinism.

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geezer_also December 31 2009, 22:36:09 UTC
Uh, I would submit that the objections are based on the existence of a soul. Whether neither or both have one. From my experience, the "hate" derives from the "fact" that secular Darwinists remove God from the equation. My observation and opinion of course.

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inibo January 1 2010, 03:38:05 UTC
I agree, watching Cosmos you could see the wonder and awe that Sagan experienced. I remember him saying something about we are the mechanism that the Cosmos evolved to know itself. That is a very Hindu kind of idea without the superstitious baggage.

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inibo January 1 2010, 03:39:10 UTC
Possibly the main reason I am happy to have you as a friend is that I am "forced" to think outside my rut, which I haven't done for years.

That is a very gratifying comment. I'll try to live up to it.

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