A failure to communicate...

Jan 21, 2016 19:32

I've been chatting on BF lately about the comics and I've come to notice a big difference is in the way I look at things vs how others do, especially newer fans. I've noticed the same thing when I was on tumblr. It seems to be based on just how important headcanons are and their worth to the story. I just don't like being asked to fill in gaps in ( Read more... )

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shapinglight January 22 2016, 12:05:14 UTC
I have been reading your conversation with KoC but unfortunately I find him so pompous and convinced he's right about everything that I have to skim his comments for the sake of my blood pressure.

There's some amusement to be got from what he doesn't say about certain things - like his obsession with the panel where Buffy's looking at her cross necklace, which suggests to me that he's still hoping Buffy will turn into a good Catholic girl of the type he approves of and would marry himself.

Sorry. Bitching here.

I agree that we should not be left to invent characters' motivations for ourselves. That didn't happen in the show (or not much, and mostly in season 7 with Buffy and Spike), and it's been quite frustrating in the years since season 8 flopped down on our doorsteps like a mouldy dead bird to be constantly told that readers should work out what characters are thinking and why they do what they do for themselves, leaving a huge range of interpretations equally valid.

There are some moments like that in the show (for instance, I've seen Bangel 'shippers, plus KoC himself, interpret Buffy's facial expression when she looks at Spike at the end of the church scene in Beneath You as indicating that she's disgusted by him), but for the most part you always know why characters do what they do and what led them to do it.

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sueworld2003 January 22 2016, 17:58:01 UTC
"I agree that we should not be left to invent characters' motivations for ourselves. "

This. Imo thats been the bane of comics ever since season 8 let alone now.

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infinitewhale January 22 2016, 18:36:49 UTC
I find him so pompous and convinced he's right about everything that I have to skim his comments for the sake of my blood pressure.

He's almost funny in his complete inability to admit he was wrong about Spuffy in S9. His attempts at sophistry give me headaches. The whole Star Trek attempt to deflect... Sheesh.

It's not even really the stuff that's open to interpretation. The show had plenty of that. Did Buffy mean it? What's the smile about? That stuff doesn't bother me. But as I was discussing with Stoney, which kicked off that little offshoot, we're constantly asked in the comics to come up with explanations why a character changed from their established belief/knowledge set with no explanation.

We know Buffy thought about all this stuff before. We know her thoughts on it. So for it all to be occurring to her now, well... it doesn't work. I think you said it perfectly in your review. Wanna break them up, fine, but at least let them split because of their own issues rather than stuff Gage invented. It honestly reminds me of the bankrobbing crap from S8 where she "realizes" robbing banks is wrong, as if she didn't know already. It just makes the girl look dumb and you can't fix stupid and the more times to redo storylines, the dumber they look.

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infinitewhale January 24 2016, 19:41:38 UTC

Absolutely nothing. The poster argued it would be The. Epic. Romance. of the season. When apparently it never crossed the writers minds other than to tease fans.

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infinitewhale January 25 2016, 11:50:55 UTC
They're doing it in S10. They've managed to even make Spuffy boring.

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